Re: How many people mark spam in gmane groups?

[Jon Ericson <Jon.Ericson@jpl.nasa.gov>]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> spam-report-gmane-regex is consulted only when spam-report-gmane is
> invoked.  To invoke it, you have to activate the
> gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-report-gmane spam exit processor.
> Customize the variable gnus-spam-process-newsgroups (you could also
> do it with group/topic parameters but you already said you can't).

Eureka!  g-s-p-n was the variable I was looking for[1].  But now I'm even
more confused about s-r-g-r.  It seems there are several ways to have
s-r-g invoked:

* Set the group/topic parameter.  In this case s-r-g-r is irrelevant
  because you've already indicated precisely what groups are Gmane
  groups.

* Set g-s-p-n to indicate a regexp matching Gmane groups and applying
  the g-g-s-e-p-r-g exit processor to those groups.  If the regexp in
  g-s-p-n is accurate, s-r-g-r is irrelevant.

* Call s-r-g independent of spam.el.  In this case, s-r-g-r might be
  useful, but the documentation doesn't make any sense:

    String matching Gmane newsgroups if wanted, e.g. "^nntp+.*:gmane."[2]
    This is probably handled better with group/topic parameters.

  It'd make more sense to say something like:

    Regexp matching Gmane newsgroups.  If you are using spam.el,
    consider setting gnus-spam-process-newsgroups or
    the gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-report-gmane group/topic
    parameter instead.

> I know spam.el is a bit intimidating to new users, and will try to
> put some useful novice info in the manual in time for Gnus 5.10.

I must admit that I only skimmed the manual.  I'm sure a more detailed
reading of the spam sections would have helped.

Jon

P.S. Why is the Mail-Followup-To set to "Jon Ericson
     <Jon.Ericson@jpl.nasa.gov>, ding@gnus.org"?  When I hit 'F' to
     reply, the mail was to be sent to me and CCed to the list.  Is
     this what is intended?

Footnotes: 
[1]  The comment "This only makes sense for mail groups." is now
     outdated, by the way.

[2]  I think this should be "^nntp\+.*:gmane\." since + and . are
     special characters.

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