what is the best way to include code snippets in plain mail body

what is the best way to include code snippets in plain mail body

[Uwe Brauer]

Hi

Sometimes I have to include an example which is some code.
If it is on a emacs mailing list I would do 
#+begin_src 
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{mathtools}
\mathtoolsset{showonlyrefs}
\usepackage[colorlinks]{hyperref}
\usepackage{xpatch}
\makeatletter
\xpretocmd\HyRef@autoref{\noeqref{#2}}{}{}% small hack
\makeatother
#+end_src


And this  is fine.

If I write to an author that used some html based mail, (using a gmail
account or thunderbird) I would use org-mime to htmlize the above code,
but in general I would use

,----
| \documentclass{article}
| \usepackage{mathtools}
| \mathtoolsset{showonlyrefs}
| \usepackage[colorlinks]{hyperref}
| \usepackage{xpatch}
| \makeatletter
| \xpretocmd\HyRef@autoref{\noeqref{#2}}{}{}% small hack
| \makeatother
`----

Is there any better way for plain based mailing lists say



Regards

Uwe Brauer 



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Re: what is the best way to include code snippets in plain mail body

[Emanuel Berg]

Uwe Brauer wrote:

> ,----
> | \documentclass{article}
> | \usepackage{mathtools}
> | \mathtoolsset{showonlyrefs}
> | \usepackage[colorlinks]{hyperref}
> | \usepackage{xpatch}
> | \makeatletter
> | \xpretocmd\HyRef@autoref{\noeqref{#2}}{}{}% small hack
> | \makeatother
> `----
>
> Is there any better way for plain based mailing lists say

That makes kill/yank slower and don't really increase
readability to an eye that is even remotely trained, which
will instantly recognize it as LaTeX source, box or no box.

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Re: what is the best way to include code snippets in plain mail body

[Uwe Brauer]

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>>> "EB" == Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org> writes:

> Uwe Brauer wrote:
>> ,----
>> | \documentclass{article}
>> | \usepackage{mathtools}
>> | \mathtoolsset{showonlyrefs}
>> | \usepackage[colorlinks]{hyperref}
>> | \usepackage{xpatch}
>> | \makeatletter
>> | \xpretocmd\HyRef@autoref{\noeqref{#2}}{}{}% small hack
>> | \makeatother
>> `----
>> 
>> Is there any better way for plain based mailing lists say

> That makes kill/yank slower and don't really increase
> readability to an eye that is even remotely trained, which
> will instantly recognize it as LaTeX source, box or no box.

Ok point taken whats about the famous 

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{mathtools}
\mathtoolsset{showonlyrefs}
\usepackage[colorlinks]{hyperref}
\usepackage{xpatch}
\makeatletter
\xpretocmd\HyRef@autoref{\noeqref{#2}}{}{}% small hack
\makeatother
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---


BTW, I swore I have seen code for inserting some code or marking the
code and inserting these lines, but I can't find it anymore

Any ideas?

Regards



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I strongly condemn Hamas heinous atrocities on Israel, especially the despicable pogroms.
I strongly condemn Putin's war of aggression against Ukraine.
I support to deliver weapons to Ukraine's military. 
I support the NATO membership of Ukraine.
I support the EU membership of Ukraine. 
https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gmail-conversation-view/

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Re: what is the best way to include code snippets in plain mail body

[Arash Esbati]

Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

> BTW, I swore I have seen code for inserting some code or marking the
> code and inserting these lines, but I can't find it anymore
>
> Any ideas?

,----[ C-h f message-mark-inserted-region RET ]
| message-mark-inserted-region is an interactive native-compiled Lisp
| function in ‘message.el’.
| 
| It is bound to C-c M-m.
| 
| (message-mark-inserted-region BEG END &optional VERBATIM)
| 
| Mark some region in the current article with enclosing tags.
| See ‘message-mark-insert-begin’ and ‘message-mark-insert-end’.
| If VERBATIM, use slrn style verbatim marks ("#v+" and "#v-").
| 
`----

Best, Arash

Re: what is the best way to include code snippets in plain mail body

[Uwe Brauer]

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> Ok point taken whats about the famous 

> \documentclass{article}
> \usepackage{mathtools}
> \mathtoolsset{showonlyrefs}
> \usepackage[colorlinks]{hyperref}
> \usepackage{xpatch}
> \makeatletter
> \xpretocmd\HyRef@autoref{\noeqref{#2}}{}{}% small hack
> \makeatother


> BTW, I swore I have seen code for inserting some code or marking the
> code and inserting these lines, but I can't find it anymore


Ah, message-mark-inserted-region and friends I the answer, sorry for the
noise then.

> Any ideas?

> Regards

-- 
I strongly condemn Hamas heinous atrocities on Israel, especially the despicable pogroms.
I strongly condemn Putin's war of aggression against Ukraine.
I support to deliver weapons to Ukraine's military. 
I support the NATO membership of Ukraine.
I support the EU membership of Ukraine. 
https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gmail-conversation-view/

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Re: what is the best way to include code snippets in plain mail body

[Emanuel Berg]

Uwe Brauer wrote:

> Ah, message-mark-inserted-region and friends I the answer,
> sorry for the noise then.

Let me try that on what you just wrote,

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Ah, message-mark-inserted-region and friends I the answer,
sorry for the noise then.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Oh, those I do recognize!

Okay, so what are they supposed to do?

Actually I have a function that removes them [1] but if they
are beneficial, maybe I'll allow them then.

[1] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/emacs-init/gnus/article.el

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Re: what is the best way to include code snippets in plain mail body

[Emanuel Berg]

> Mark some region in the current article with enclosing tags.
> See ‘message-mark-insert-begin’ and
> ‘message-mark-insert-end’. If VERBATIM, use slrn style
> verbatim marks ("#v+" and "#v-").

Here is that software:

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slrn

From 1994! (Gnus is from 1995.)

But there is no mention of the "#v+" and "#v-" notation on
that page.

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Re: what is the best way to include code snippets in plain mail body

[Emanuel Berg]

> Okay, so what are they supposed to do?

They font lock in `mm-uu-extract', but that seems to work even
if I remove them. Maybe my washing function kicks in later
than the fontifying, so that part is already done, and
remains. Don't know if there is some other part?

What did the Usenet/slrn guys do with it?

Facts for fan(s), in the Debian repos there are these hits for
"slrn",

  p slrn     - threaded text-mode news reader           
  p slrnface - shows X-Faces from a newsposting on an X1
  p slrnpull - pulls a small newsfeed from an NNTP serve

slrn is also mentioned 125 times in this document from 1993,
1994, and 1995,

  https://web.archive.org/web/20160512160602/http://alcor.concordia.ca/topics/netnews/slrn/intro/

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