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From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
To: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,  ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: new wifi connection = nntp timeout = Emacs restart?
Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 12:07:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mu6qqhoc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874ksycmcb.fsf@randomsample> (David Engster's message of "Sat, 02 May 2020 18:50:44 +0200")

David Engster <deng@randomsample.de> writes:

>> But this requires installing the NetworkManager package, right?
>
> For detecting network changes, yes.
>
>> Which I've been happily doing without.
>
> Me too, until yesterday, but not happily. Dealing with WiFi through 'iw'
> and editing /etc/network/interfaces is not a success story, IMHO.

I've had pretty good luck with netctl and it's wifi-menu program.

>> I wonder what percentage of Gnus users are on dbus-enabled systems...
>
> On GNU/Linux: high percentage. It's very hard to remove DBus from a
> modern distribution. Unless you're working on a tty or only use
> 'startx', it's most probably running.
>
>> I don't suppose it's worth trying to make something built-in for them.
>
> I think it does no harm to have something like this as long as it
> doesn't bother people who don't want/have it. I'm sure Lars will
> eventually come up with the perfect method to detect stale TCP
> connections, but even then I'd consider this useful.

I've already had an off-list vote in the negative! But of course this
would come protected behind a custom option. If we even think there's
any point at all.

If Lars had a magic bullet, I think he would have used it by now...


  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-02 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-16 17:37 Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-17 11:46 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-04-17 12:20   ` Gijs Hillenius
2020-04-17 12:26     ` Andreas Schwab
2020-04-17 14:51       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-17 15:38         ` David Engster
2020-04-17 16:35           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-19  6:37 ` Christian Barthel
2020-04-19 17:32   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-19 18:02     ` Robert Pluim
2020-04-19 21:23       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-19 22:10       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-20  4:54         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-20  7:40         ` Andreas Schwab
2020-04-20 15:45           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-20 15:54             ` Robert Pluim
2020-04-20 18:24               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-21  8:36                 ` Alberto Luaces
2020-04-21 15:53                   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-22  7:37                     ` Alberto Luaces
2020-04-22  8:28                       ` Alberto Luaces
2020-04-30  5:26       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-04-30 17:34         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-30 21:49           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-04-30 22:11             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-05-04 12:53               ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-04 13:13                 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-05-04 13:33                   ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-04 14:35                     ` Andreas Schwab
2020-05-04 14:46                       ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-04 15:10                         ` Andreas Schwab
2020-05-04 16:29                           ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-04 14:51                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-05-04 16:13                   ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-04 16:36                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-05-04 17:21                       ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-04 18:01                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-05-05  7:41                           ` new wifi connection = nntp timeout = Emacs restart?, " Robert Pluim
2020-05-05  8:19                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-05-05 11:55                               ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-19 13:34                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-05-19 13:36                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-05-04 18:47                         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-05-04 15:38                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-05-04 16:28                   ` Robert Pluim
2020-04-30 17:38         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-30 21:51           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-04-30 22:26             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-30 22:28               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-04-30 22:39                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-30 22:55                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-04-30 23:13                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-30 23:23                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-05-01  9:46                         ` David Engster
2020-05-01 10:35                           ` David Engster
2020-05-01 17:29                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-05-01 20:51                               ` David Engster
2020-05-02  0:33                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-05-02 10:20                                   ` David Engster
2020-05-02 15:13                                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-05-02 16:50                                       ` David Engster
2020-05-02 19:07                                         ` Eric Abrahamsen [this message]
2020-05-19 13:23                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-05-21  0:45                                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-06-26  9:38                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-21 20:47                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-05-01 18:06                         ` Eric Abrahamsen

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