From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: gnus-cloud work (was: gnus-sync work)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:55:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r3by2sfd.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877fe0svto.fsf@lifelogs.com>
On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 14:22:27 -0400 Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:
TZ> On Sun, 05 Jun 2016 13:27:35 -0700 Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> wrote:
DA> I don't mean to be pushy, but realistically speaking, is there any
DA> chance this will happen in the next few weeks? I am seriously thinking
DA> of moving most of my NNTP participation to GMail/IMAP just to avoid the
DA> sync issue.
TZ> I want to do it, but really want to know what Lars thinks because I know
TZ> he had started working on something similar already.
TZ> If not, this weekend I'll bang it out as a new gnus-sync.el backend (and
TZ> obsolete the old CouchDB one).
All right, after looking at gnus-cloud.el, I think I understand where
Lars was going. Unfortunately he hasn't touched that code in years so we
have to get going with what's there. In any case, it's better code than
gnus-sync.el, especially as far as internal glue is concerned, so
gnus-sync.el is going away.
gnus-cloud.el did:
* set up a mechanism where every server could be "cloud synced"
* have the concept of a "cloud host server+group"
* save sequences representing files or pure data to IMAP articles
* have ambitions to be Emacs-wide, so perhaps should move out of Gnus?
My changes now are in the Emacs Savannah repo in branch scratch/gnus-cloud:
* rename the cloud host group name to "Emacs-Cloud" so it works with GMail
* add `I' and `gnus-server-toggle-cloud-method-server' in the Server buffer to set an IMAP server as the cloud host and do an initial full upload
* show the cloud host distinctly visually
* remove gnus-sync.el
* a full upload works
To try it: switch to the scratch/gnus-cloud branch, go to the Server
buffer, and hit `I' or `M-x gnus-server-toggle-cloud-method-server'
Try this outside a server line: you'll get an error.
Try this on a non-IMAP server: you'll get an error.
Try this on an IMAP server: you should see `CLOUD-HOST' on it, and the
initial upload should run and complete successfully.
Still remaining:
* verify uploads
* download cloud data back
* when a server is selected as the CLOUD-HOST, maybe save that choice? but I'm not sure if the choice should be persisted in `gnus-cloud-method' or in the newsrc.eld.
* notice when the cloud data changes (maybe some IMAP magic can do it... but could just be done explicitly for now)
* use PGP instead of Base64+gzip (could be a choice... but I would
* really prefer to make it secure by default and make insecure storage an explicit user choice)
* get Steinar, Dave, and others to try this out...
* send salmon hunter drones after Lars to get him back on this :)
Ted
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Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-07 3:11 check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it Ted Zlatanov
2014-10-07 3:49 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2014-10-14 19:41 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-01-27 1:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-02-04 11:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-02-04 21:05 ` Steinar Bang
2015-02-04 22:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-05-20 15:53 ` Any cloudy news...? (Was: check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it) Steinar Bang
2015-06-07 21:28 ` Trying to get gnus-sync working with plink (Was: Any cloudy news...?) Steinar Bang
2015-06-08 16:15 ` Trying to get gnus-sync working with plink Steinar Bang
2015-06-08 16:25 ` Steinar Bang
2015-06-09 10:24 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2015-06-09 14:47 ` Steinar Bang
2016-03-07 14:10 ` gnus-sync work (was: Trying to get gnus-sync working with plink) Ted Zlatanov
2016-05-19 22:45 ` gnus-sync work Dave Abrahams
2016-05-20 17:43 ` Steinar Bang
2016-05-24 19:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-05-31 21:33 ` Dave Abrahams
2016-06-01 5:38 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-05 20:27 ` Dave Abrahams
2016-06-07 18:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-06-07 19:53 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-15 18:55 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2016-06-17 20:21 ` gnus-cloud work Ted Zlatanov
2016-06-20 12:21 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-20 19:10 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-20 19:56 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-21 15:39 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-21 17:35 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-06-21 18:05 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-21 18:52 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-27 14:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-06-27 15:07 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-27 15:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-03 10:10 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-03 17:05 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-05 2:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-06 21:19 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-07 12:52 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-06-27 14:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-06-30 14:42 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-06-30 15:02 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-01 2:00 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-01 4:27 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-01 17:44 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-02 1:00 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-06 14:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-20 12:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-23 20:27 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-24 13:33 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-24 13:38 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-24 14:46 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-25 13:00 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-25 17:42 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-07-26 2:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-26 8:15 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-26 14:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-26 18:42 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-26 18:55 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-26 19:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-26 21:19 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-27 14:00 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-27 15:59 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-28 13:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-28 17:18 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-28 17:41 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-28 20:50 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-29 20:35 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-29 23:04 ` What happenend Gmane? (Was: Re: gnus-cloud work) Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)
2016-07-30 6:36 ` What happenend Gmane? Steinar Bang
2016-07-30 8:40 ` Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)
2016-08-01 16:28 ` gnus-cloud work Ted Zlatanov
2016-08-01 19:34 ` Steinar Bang
2016-08-02 9:59 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-08-03 7:20 ` Steinar Bang
2016-08-03 7:44 ` gnus-cloud: Invalid base64 data (Was: gnus-cloud work) Steinar Bang
2016-09-19 0:06 ` gnus-cloud work Dave Abrahams
2016-09-20 12:54 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-09-30 18:27 ` Dave Abrahams
2016-09-30 18:29 ` Dave Abrahams
2016-07-23 20:32 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-24 7:33 ` Steinar Bang
2015-02-05 3:13 ` check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-02-05 4:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-02-05 4:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-02-05 10:49 ` Steinar Bang
2015-02-05 10:59 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-02-13 6:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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