From: Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: gnus-sync work
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:33:11 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2twhdq5ew.fsf@fripp.apple.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bn3vs1tb.fsf@lifelogs.com>
on Tue May 24 2016, Ted Zlatanov <tzz-AT-lifelogs.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 20 May 2016 19:43:57 +0200 Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>:
>>> I wonder how ridiculous it would be to, for every newsgroup, create
>>> imap folders with empty shadow articles for each news article? Then
>>> you could access NNTP and IMAP in parallel and just use IMAP for the
>>> article marks.
>
> I think that's not a bad idea, but it creates a lot of opportunities for
> things to get out of sync and would be very slow (using these shadow
> articles requires spooling them, waiting, then setting their marks).
> Entering a large group could take hours.
>
> Lars' idea, from when we talked about it, was to create articles with a
> data description of what has changed since the last full sync, so you
> can read the articles to recreate the marks.
>
> SB> The problem will be synching the article numbers in an efficient manner
> SB> (ie. based on the NOV data), I think...?
>
> SB> Or...? Perhaps not...? Is the message-id a part of the NOV data? That
> SB> would be identical in both folders, I think...?
>
> How about this protocol:
>
> * designate an IMAP folder as the sync home
> * message subject is the group name
> * message body is just a dump of the Lisp data for the marks
> * messages marked Important (ticked) are full syncs of the marks for that group
> * messages not marked Important are differential syncs (protocol to be determined, let's stick to full sync only)
>
> This would be fast and you can even go back to older marks if you catch
> up by accident or something. The marks would be stored in a small
> consistent data store, atomically updated (most recent wins).
SGTM! Want! :-)
--
Dave
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Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-07 3:11 check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it Ted Zlatanov
2014-10-07 3:49 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2014-10-14 19:41 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-01-27 1:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-02-04 11:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-02-04 21:05 ` Steinar Bang
2015-02-04 22:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-05-20 15:53 ` Any cloudy news...? (Was: check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it) Steinar Bang
2015-06-07 21:28 ` Trying to get gnus-sync working with plink (Was: Any cloudy news...?) Steinar Bang
2015-06-08 16:15 ` Trying to get gnus-sync working with plink Steinar Bang
2015-06-08 16:25 ` Steinar Bang
2015-06-09 10:24 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2015-06-09 14:47 ` Steinar Bang
2016-03-07 14:10 ` gnus-sync work (was: Trying to get gnus-sync working with plink) Ted Zlatanov
2016-05-19 22:45 ` gnus-sync work Dave Abrahams
2016-05-20 17:43 ` Steinar Bang
2016-05-24 19:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-05-31 21:33 ` Dave Abrahams [this message]
2016-06-01 5:38 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-05 20:27 ` Dave Abrahams
2016-06-07 18:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-06-07 19:53 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-15 18:55 ` gnus-cloud work (was: gnus-sync work) Ted Zlatanov
2016-06-17 20:21 ` gnus-cloud work Ted Zlatanov
2016-06-20 12:21 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-20 19:10 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-20 19:56 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-21 15:39 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-21 17:35 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-06-21 18:05 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-21 18:52 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-27 14:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-06-27 15:07 ` Steinar Bang
2016-06-27 15:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-03 10:10 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-03 17:05 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-05 2:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-06 21:19 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-07 12:52 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-06-27 14:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-06-30 14:42 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-06-30 15:02 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-01 2:00 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-01 4:27 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-01 17:44 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-02 1:00 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-06 14:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-20 12:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-23 20:27 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-24 13:33 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-24 13:38 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-24 14:46 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-25 13:00 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-25 17:42 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-07-26 2:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-26 8:15 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-26 14:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-26 18:42 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-26 18:55 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-26 19:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-26 21:19 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-27 14:00 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-27 15:59 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-28 13:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-28 17:18 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-28 17:41 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-28 20:50 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-29 20:35 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-29 23:04 ` What happenend Gmane? (Was: Re: gnus-cloud work) Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)
2016-07-30 6:36 ` What happenend Gmane? Steinar Bang
2016-07-30 8:40 ` Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희)
2016-08-01 16:28 ` gnus-cloud work Ted Zlatanov
2016-08-01 19:34 ` Steinar Bang
2016-08-02 9:59 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-08-03 7:20 ` Steinar Bang
2016-08-03 7:44 ` gnus-cloud: Invalid base64 data (Was: gnus-cloud work) Steinar Bang
2016-09-19 0:06 ` gnus-cloud work Dave Abrahams
2016-09-20 12:54 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-09-30 18:27 ` Dave Abrahams
2016-09-30 18:29 ` Dave Abrahams
2016-07-23 20:32 ` Steinar Bang
2016-07-24 7:33 ` Steinar Bang
2015-02-05 3:13 ` check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-02-05 4:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-02-05 4:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-02-05 10:49 ` Steinar Bang
2015-02-05 10:59 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-02-13 6:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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