Using several encodings in mails sent

Using several encodings in mails sent

[Olivier Berger]

Hi.

I'm using Gnus + GNU/Emacs in a fr_FR@euro (ISO-8859-15) locale
environment.

Whenever I send mails using certain french accuentuated characters,
Gnus complaints about sending mail using several charsets (a message
part needs to be split into 3 charsets parts. really send ?), 3 times
in a row.

I suspect that the mail is originaly encoded in ISO-8859-1 and that my
locale forces a mix with ISO-8859-15...

Is there any way to prevent this behaviour (correcting the problem so
that I'm using ISO-8859-1 (I don't often need to use the euro
character in mails ;) or preventing emacs/gnus to ask for
confirmation) ?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Using several encodings in mails sent

[ShengHuo ZHU]

Olivier Berger <olberger@club-internet.fr> writes:

> I'm using Gnus + GNU/Emacs in a fr_FR@euro (ISO-8859-15) locale
> environment.
>
> Whenever I send mails using certain french accuentuated characters,
> Gnus complaints about sending mail using several charsets (a message
> part needs to be split into 3 charsets parts. really send ?), 3 times
> in a row.
>
> I suspect that the mail is originaly encoded in ISO-8859-1 and that my
> locale forces a mix with ISO-8859-15...
>
> Is there any way to prevent this behaviour (correcting the problem so
> that I'm using ISO-8859-1 (I don't often need to use the euro
> character in mails ;) or preventing emacs/gnus to ask for
> confirmation) ?

A feature in oGnus v0.04 converts a mix of iso-8859-1 and -15 to
iso-8859-15 if possible.

ShengHuo

Re: Using several encodings in mails sent

[Olivier Berger]

ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:

> Olivier Berger <olberger@club-internet.fr> writes:
> 
> > I'm using Gnus + GNU/Emacs in a fr_FR@euro (ISO-8859-15) locale
> > environment.
> >
> > Whenever I send mails using certain french accuentuated characters,
> > Gnus complaints about sending mail using several charsets (a message
> > part needs to be split into 3 charsets parts. really send ?), 3 times
> > in a row.
> >
> > I suspect that the mail is originaly encoded in ISO-8859-1 and that my
> > locale forces a mix with ISO-8859-15...
> >
> > Is there any way to prevent this behaviour (correcting the problem so
> > that I'm using ISO-8859-1 (I don't often need to use the euro
> > character in mails ;) or preventing emacs/gnus to ask for
> > confirmation) ?
> 
> A feature in oGnus v0.04 converts a mix of iso-8859-1 and -15 to
> iso-8859-15 if possible.
> 

Would there be any chance to get such a feature somehow for Gnus
v5.9.0 ?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Using several encodings in mails sent

[ShengHuo ZHU]

Olivier Berger <olberger@club-internet.fr> writes:

> ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:

[...]

>> A feature in oGnus v0.04 converts a mix of iso-8859-1 and -15 to
>> iso-8859-15 if possible.
>> 
>
> Would there be any chance to get such a feature somehow for Gnus
> v5.9.0 ?

Let me check the Emacs CVS.... Found it. I've ported it to Emacs 21,
i.e. it will be included in the next release of Emacs.

ShengHuo

Re: Using several encodings in mails sent

[Olivier Berger]

Olivier Berger <olberger@club-internet.fr> writes:

> Hi.
> 
> I'm using Gnus + GNU/Emacs in a fr_FR@euro (ISO-8859-15) locale
> environment.
> 
> Whenever I send mails using certain french accuentuated characters,
> Gnus complaints about sending mail using several charsets (a message
> part needs to be split into 3 charsets parts. really send ?), 3 times
> in a row.
> 
> I suspect that the mail is originaly encoded in ISO-8859-1 and that my
> locale forces a mix with ISO-8859-15...
> 
> Is there any way to prevent this behaviour (correcting the problem so
> that I'm using ISO-8859-1 (I don't often need to use the euro
> character in mails ;) or preventing emacs/gnus to ask for
> confirmation) ?
> 

I've had a look at the mml.el file and discovered that the
mml-confirmation-set variable just seems to be controling this need
for user confirmation in case of multipart sending.

I'd like to set it so that it won't ask anymore, but being a total
newbe in emacs-lisp, I don't know the syntax which would let me change
its value.

Excerpt from the doc (C-h v mml-confirmation-set) :

Documentation:
A list of symbols, each of which disables some warning.
`unknown-encoding': always send messages contain characters with
unknown encoding; `use-ascii': always use ASCII for those characters
with unknown encoding; `multipart': always send messages with more than
one charsets.

Defined in `mml'.

Anybody to suggest something to add to my .gnus.el ?

Thanks in advance.
-- 
Olivier BERGER - Secrétaire de l'association APRIL 
APRIL (http://www.april.org) - Vive python (http://www.python.org)
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Re: Using several encodings in mails sent

[Kai Großjohann]

Olivier Berger <olberger@club-internet.fr> writes:

> I'd like to set it so that it won't ask anymore, but being a total
> newbe in emacs-lisp, I don't know the syntax which would let me change
> its value.

M-x customize-variable RET is probably your friend.

kai
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Re: Using several encodings in mails sent

[Olivier Berger]

Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:

> Olivier Berger <olberger@club-internet.fr> writes:
> 
> > I'd like to set it so that it won't ask anymore, but being a total
> > newbe in emacs-lisp, I don't know the syntax which would let me change
> > its value.
> 
> M-x customize-variable RET is probably your friend.
> 

Nope.

It's not customizable (which is sad ;)

That's why I'm stuck with my emacs-lisp problem ;)

Thanks anyway.
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Re: Using several encodings in mails sent

[Kai Großjohann]

Olivier Berger <olberger@club-internet.fr> writes:

> Nope.
>
> It's not customizable (which is sad ;)
>
> That's why I'm stuck with my emacs-lisp problem ;)

Oh, sorry.  Hm.

(setq mml-confirmation-set '(unknown-encoding use-ascii multipart))

Delete symbols from this list as appropriate.  Don't delete the "'"
character. 

kai
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Re: Using several encodings in mails sent

[Olivier Berger]

Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:

> Olivier Berger <olberger@club-internet.fr> writes:
> 
> > Nope.
> >
> > It's not customizable (which is sad ;)
> >
> > That's why I'm stuck with my emacs-lisp problem ;)
> 
> Oh, sorry.  Hm.
> 
> (setq mml-confirmation-set '(unknown-encoding use-ascii multipart))
> 
> Delete symbols from this list as appropriate.  Don't delete the "'"
> character. 
> 

Thanks. It works as expected.

I had tried 
(setq mml-confirmation-set '('multipart))

But that obviously was wrong...

Some day, I'll learn emacs lisp ;)

Best regards.
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Re: Using several encodings in mails sent

[Kai Großjohann]

Olivier Berger <olberger@club-internet.fr> writes:

> I had tried 
> (setq mml-confirmation-set '('multipart))

The second "'" character is too much.

kai
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