From: Helmut Waitzmann <nn.throttle@xoxy.net>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Delayed messages, postponing Date: until sending by default?
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 03:51:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tv2f4wbb.fsf@helmutwaitzmann.news.arcor.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87imiyyikr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>
Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>:
>Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>> Amin Bandali <mab@gnu.org> writes:
>>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>>>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>>>>> Adam Sjøgren <asjo@koldfront.dk> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Recently I read a blog post about delayed messages in Gnus:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> · https://tech.toryanderson.com/2020/02/21/emacs-gnus-delay-schedule-email-sending/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I could help myself nerdsplaining the configuration I use for
>>>>>> delayed messages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of the things is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ; Remove date, so delayed messages (C-c C-j) don't get a date until
>>>>>> ; sent, from <mailman.1180.1266014215.14305.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>:
>>>>>> (setq message-draft-headers '(References From))
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh, I didn't realize that the Date header was set as
>>>>> time-of-delay, not time-of-send. Confirming for myself by
>>>>> delaying this message by a day. No harm done, as it is
>>>>> totally useless!
>>>>
>>>> Huh, no kidding. I can't think of any reason we'd want to
>>>>send delayed messages out with the original Date header...
>>>
>>> +1; I think it would be a more sensible default to use the
>>>Date of send. I think it can be especially confusing for the
>>>receiver seeing a message dated, say, 1 day before, but only
>>>just appearing in their inbox.
>>
>> And even with regular (non-delayed) drafts, why would we want
>>to date it from when we *started* writing the message, rather
>>than when we sent it?
>>
>> I've opened bug#40151 for this.
>
>And it's in!
Is it possible for the user to select the other behavior: send a
message with the date when the message was finished writing? If
not, I'd beg not to change that.
On the other hand: If I want to send a message with the date of
sending rather than writing, I just save it as a draft. Then,
before sending, I reedit the message to get the current date.
Adhering to the general principle: provide mechanism not policy –
I'd like to select the policy for myself.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-23 2:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-14 22:46 Adam Sjøgren
2020-03-19 23:01 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-03-20 16:42 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-03-20 16:57 ` Amin Bandali
2020-03-20 17:14 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-03-20 18:41 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-03-20 18:50 ` Amin Bandali
2020-03-20 18:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-03-23 2:51 ` Helmut Waitzmann [this message]
2020-03-23 4:41 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-03-23 8:20 ` Robert Pluim
2020-03-23 18:43 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-03-24 15:09 ` Robert Pluim
2020-03-24 20:09 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-03-25 0:13 ` Helmut Waitzmann
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