saving nnfolders

saving nnfolders

[Dmitry Yaitskov]

Hi,

I have (finally :) succeeded in setting up the expired articles to be
moved to nnfolders. What I don't like with the way it works now is,
after this expiration process I end up with all those updated nnfolder
groups as changed (and unsaved) buffers in my XEmacs. I'd like to

1. Have nnfolders save themselves each time a message is added (disk
   access if fast; losing articles - or having to restore them from
   auto saves - is bad).

2. Have these nnfolder buffers delete themselves at some point
   auto-magically (or perhaps just have them delete themselves after
   each article is added, after saving).

Any ideas or pointers to the relevant places in the docs would be
appreciated. Thanks.

-- 
Cheers,
-Dima.

Re: saving nnfolders

[Dmitry Yaitskov]

Sorry to followup to my own post - but... I wonder why nobody replied
- is it because I'm asking a completely stupid question and missing
something bloody obvious? The problem is (or at least seems) serious
enough to me (esp the non-saving of nnfolders - if my emacs crashes -
which happens - I will get asked about restoring the "dribble" buffer
but I have no idea how if at all I'll get asked about the nnfolder
autosaved buffers - will I?), and I'm tempted to try and hack
something up myself to fix that - but before I do - maybe I'm missing
something? Gnus gurus, what do you say? Thx.


Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have (finally :) succeeded in setting up the expired articles to be
> moved to nnfolders. What I don't like with the way it works now is,
> after this expiration process I end up with all those updated nnfolder
> groups as changed (and unsaved) buffers in my XEmacs. I'd like to
> 
> 1. Have nnfolders save themselves each time a message is added (disk
>    access if fast; losing articles - or having to restore them from
>    auto saves - is bad).
> 
> 2. Have these nnfolder buffers delete themselves at some point
>    auto-magically (or perhaps just have them delete themselves after
>    each article is added, after saving).
> 
> Any ideas or pointers to the relevant places in the docs would be
> appreciated. Thanks.

-- 
Cheers,
-Dima.

Re: saving nnfolders

[Alan Shutko]

Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com> writes:

> 1. Have nnfolders save themselves each time a message is added (disk
>    access if fast; losing articles - or having to restore them from
>    auto saves - is bad).

This is doubleplus-unfast if you're gzipping 30MB nnfolders, and
you're copying a few hundred messages into them at a time.  (My former
usage pattern... now I don't gzip, but saving a 30MB file 150 times
in a row is not fast by any stretch of the imagination.)

In any case, there's no predefined functionality.  A patch was posted
a few weeks ago to save every article move, but nothing to have the
buffers delete.

-- 
Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> - In a variety of flavors!
He who has a shady past knows that nice guys finish last.

Re: saving nnfolders

[Dmitry Yaitskov]

Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> wrote:

> Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com> writes:
> 
> > 1. Have nnfolders save themselves each time a message is added (disk
> >    access if fast; losing articles - or having to restore them from
> >    auto saves - is bad).
> 
> This is doubleplus-unfast if you're gzipping 30MB nnfolders, and
> you're copying a few hundred messages into them at a time.  (My former
> usage pattern... now I don't gzip, but saving a 30MB file 150 times
> in a row is not fast by any stretch of the imagination.)

I won't be usually be copying a few hundred messages at a time - I use
nnfolders to "expire" old messages to - so usually it won't be more
than I sent/received per day expiration time days ago - maybe ten or
so messages at max. So the speed does not bother me much.

> In any case, there's no predefined functionality.  A patch was posted
> a few weeks ago to save every article move, but nothing to have the
> buffers delete.

Can you point me to the patch (or any key words that I should search
for)? I tried looking for something like that but didn't find
anything. Thx.

-- 
Cheers,
-Dima.