* 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?
@ 2002-01-14 3:10 Daniel Pittman
2002-01-17 7:29 ` Maciej Matysiak
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From: Daniel Pittman @ 2002-01-14 3:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
Using a CVS gnus built at Sat Jan 12 16:45:56 EST 2002, from CVS, I have
an oddity in the behavior of the 'seen' mark.
Specifically, each time I restart Gnus, *all* unread articles are also
'unseen'. This is vaguely annoying I actually /use/ the distinction
between unseen and unread...
Is this a feature and, if so, where are it's knees so that I can break
them?[1]
Daniel
Footnotes:
[1] IOW, how do I turn it off?
--
Now that mountains of meaningless words and oceans divide us
And we each have our own set of stars to comfort and guide us
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* Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?
2002-01-14 3:10 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart? Daniel Pittman
@ 2002-01-17 7:29 ` Maciej Matysiak
2002-01-17 17:47 ` Ami Fischman
2002-01-17 20:48 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-18 17:24 ` Simon Josefsson
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From: Maciej Matysiak @ 2002-01-17 7:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
On the 14th of January 2002 at 04:10, Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> wrote:
> [...] each time I restart Gnus, *all* unread articles are also
> 'unseen'.
true, true :( what can cause such odd gnus behaviuor? any hope for fix,
please?
m.m.
--
use gnus not guns!
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* Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?
2002-01-17 7:29 ` Maciej Matysiak
@ 2002-01-17 17:47 ` Ami Fischman
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From: Ami Fischman @ 2002-01-17 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
FWIW, I've had a similar experience, and the culprit ended up being
~/mail/active -- for some reason gnus decided to stick a couple of my nntp
groups there, and then every time I restarted gnus my .newsrc.eld file would
get updated as if I'd never seen any of the articles in the group. Take a
look at your mail active file. I have no idea how this happened, of course...
--
Ami Fischman
usenet@fischman.org
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* Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?
2002-01-14 3:10 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart? Daniel Pittman
2002-01-17 7:29 ` Maciej Matysiak
@ 2002-01-17 20:48 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-17 21:21 ` Maciej Matysiak
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2002-01-18 17:24 ` Simon Josefsson
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From: Simon Josefsson @ 2002-01-17 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:
> Using a CVS gnus built at Sat Jan 12 16:45:56 EST 2002, from
> CVS, I have an oddity in the behavior of the 'seen' mark.
Can you pinpoint the exact change?
> Specifically, each time I restart Gnus, *all* unread articles
> are also 'unseen'. This is vaguely annoying I actually /use/ the
> distinction between unseen and unread...
Which backend?
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* Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?
2002-01-17 20:48 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2002-01-17 21:21 ` Maciej Matysiak
2002-01-17 23:23 ` Daniel Pittman
2002-01-18 0:32 ` Daniel Pittman
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From: Maciej Matysiak @ 2002-01-17 21:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
On the 17th of January 2002 at 21:48, Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> wrote:
> Which backend?
in my case, nnml. all the news groups have correct unseen marks, only nnml's
are full such marks after restart.
m.m.
--
use gnus not guns!
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* Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?
2002-01-17 20:48 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-17 21:21 ` Maciej Matysiak
@ 2002-01-17 23:23 ` Daniel Pittman
2002-01-18 0:32 ` Daniel Pittman
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From: Daniel Pittman @ 2002-01-17 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:
>
>> Using a CVS gnus built at Sat Jan 12 16:45:56 EST 2002, from CVS, I
>> have an oddity in the behavior of the 'seen' mark.
>
> Can you pinpoint the exact change?
Not for a couple of days, I suspect. I will see if I can find time soon,
I promise.
>> Specifically, each time I restart Gnus, *all* unread articles are
>> also 'unseen'. This is vaguely annoying I actually /use/ the
>> distinction between unseen and unread...
>
> Which backend?
NNML.
Daniel
--
Machina Improba! Vel Mihi Ede Potum Vel Mihi Redde Nummos Meos!
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* Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?
2002-01-17 20:48 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-17 21:21 ` Maciej Matysiak
2002-01-17 23:23 ` Daniel Pittman
@ 2002-01-18 0:32 ` Daniel Pittman
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From: Daniel Pittman @ 2002-01-18 0:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:
>
>> Using a CVS gnus built at Sat Jan 12 16:45:56 EST 2002, from CVS, I
>> have an oddity in the behavior of the 'seen' mark.
>
> Can you pinpoint the exact change?
[16] gnus$ socksify cvs diff -D '2001-12-28' -D '2001-12-28 06:00' lisp/ChangeLog
Index: lisp/ChangeLog
===================================================================
RCS file: /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp/ChangeLog,v
retrieving revision 6.935
retrieving revision 6.936
diff -u -r6.935 -r6.936
--- lisp/ChangeLog 2001/12/26 17:15:51 6.935
+++ lisp/ChangeLog 2001/12/27 15:09:29 6.936
@@ -1,3 +1,12 @@
+2001-12-27 Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>
+
+ * gnus-sum.el (gnus-select-newsgroup): Make
+ `gnus-newsgroup-unseen' sorted. Make `gnus-newsgroup-unseen'
+ contain all articles (instead of none) when no seen marks have
+ been set for the group.
+ (gnus-update-marks): Use `gnus-range-add' on a uncompressed list
+ instead, it seems to result in shorter ranges.
+
2001-12-26 11:00:00 ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu>
* mm-util.el (mm-iso-8859-x-to-15-region): Use
[17] gnus$
Daniel
--
Architecture is frozen music.
-- Goethe
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* Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?
2002-01-14 3:10 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart? Daniel Pittman
2002-01-17 7:29 ` Maciej Matysiak
2002-01-17 20:48 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2002-01-18 17:24 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-18 21:21 ` Robert Epprecht
2002-01-19 12:27 ` Daniel Pittman
2 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Simon Josefsson @ 2002-01-18 17:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:
> Using a CVS gnus built at Sat Jan 12 16:45:56 EST 2002, from
> CVS, I have an oddity in the behavior of the 'seen' mark.
>
> Specifically, each time I restart Gnus, *all* unread articles
> are also 'unseen'. This is vaguely annoying I actually /use/ the
> distinction between unseen and unread...
Might be fixed, please test.
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* Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?
2002-01-18 17:24 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2002-01-18 21:21 ` Robert Epprecht
2002-01-19 12:27 ` Daniel Pittman
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From: Robert Epprecht @ 2002-01-18 21:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
> Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:
>> each time I restart Gnus, *all* unread articles are also 'unseen'.
> Might be fixed, please test.
Yes, seems to be OK now, thank you.
Robert Epprecht
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* Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?
2002-01-18 17:24 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-18 21:21 ` Robert Epprecht
@ 2002-01-19 12:27 ` Daniel Pittman
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From: Daniel Pittman @ 2002-01-19 12:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:
>
>> Using a CVS gnus built at Sat Jan 12 16:45:56 EST 2002, from CVS, I
>> have an oddity in the behavior of the 'seen' mark.
>>
>> Specifically, each time I restart Gnus, *all* unread articles are
>> also 'unseen'. This is vaguely annoying I actually /use/ the
>> distinction between unseen and unread...
>
> Might be fixed, please test.
It works for me, thanks.
Daniel
--
Confidence comes not from always being right but from not fearing to be wrong.
-- Peter T. Mcintyre
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