'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?

'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?

[Daniel Pittman]

Using a CVS gnus built at Sat Jan 12 16:45:56 EST 2002, from CVS, I have
an oddity in the behavior of the 'seen' mark.

Specifically, each time I restart Gnus, *all* unread articles are also
'unseen'. This is vaguely annoying I actually /use/ the distinction
between unseen and unread...

Is this a feature and, if so, where are it's knees so that I can break
them?[1]

        Daniel


Footnotes: 
[1]  IOW, how do I turn it off?

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Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?

[Maciej Matysiak]

On the 14th of January 2002 at 04:10, Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> wrote:

> [...] each time I restart Gnus, *all* unread articles are also
> 'unseen'.

true, true :( what can cause such odd gnus behaviuor? any hope for fix,
please?

 m.m.
-- 
 use gnus not guns!

Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?

[Ami Fischman]

FWIW, I've had a similar experience, and the culprit ended up being
~/mail/active -- for some reason gnus decided to stick a couple of my nntp
groups there, and then every time I restarted gnus my .newsrc.eld file would
get updated as if I'd never seen any of the articles in the group.  Take a
look at your mail active file.  I have no idea how this happened, of course...
-- 
  Ami Fischman
  usenet@fischman.org

Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?

[Simon Josefsson]

Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:

> Using a CVS gnus built at Sat Jan 12 16:45:56 EST 2002, from 
> CVS, I have an oddity in the behavior of the 'seen' mark.

Can you pinpoint the exact change?

> Specifically, each time I restart Gnus, *all* unread articles 
> are also 'unseen'. This is vaguely annoying I actually /use/ the 
> distinction between unseen and unread...

Which backend?

Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?

[Maciej Matysiak]

On the 17th of January 2002 at 21:48, Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> wrote:

> Which backend?

in my case, nnml. all the news groups have correct unseen marks, only nnml's
are full such marks after restart.

 m.m.
-- 
 use gnus not guns!

Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?

[Daniel Pittman]

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:
> 
>> Using a CVS gnus built at Sat Jan 12 16:45:56 EST 2002, from CVS, I
>> have an oddity in the behavior of the 'seen' mark.
> 
> Can you pinpoint the exact change?

Not for a couple of days, I suspect. I will see if I can find time soon,
I promise.

>> Specifically, each time I restart Gnus, *all* unread articles are
>> also 'unseen'. This is vaguely annoying I actually /use/ the
>> distinction between unseen and unread...
> 
> Which backend?

NNML.
        Daniel

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Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?

[Daniel Pittman]

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:
> 
>> Using a CVS gnus built at Sat Jan 12 16:45:56 EST 2002, from CVS, I
>> have an oddity in the behavior of the 'seen' mark.
> 
> Can you pinpoint the exact change?

[16] gnus$ socksify cvs diff -D '2001-12-28' -D '2001-12-28 06:00' lisp/ChangeLog
Index: lisp/ChangeLog
===================================================================
RCS file: /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp/ChangeLog,v
retrieving revision 6.935
retrieving revision 6.936
diff -u -r6.935 -r6.936
--- lisp/ChangeLog      2001/12/26 17:15:51     6.935
+++ lisp/ChangeLog      2001/12/27 15:09:29     6.936
@@ -1,3 +1,12 @@
+2001-12-27  Simon Josefsson  <jas@extundo.com>
+
+       * gnus-sum.el (gnus-select-newsgroup): Make
+       `gnus-newsgroup-unseen' sorted.  Make `gnus-newsgroup-unseen'
+       contain all articles (instead of none) when no seen marks have
+       been set for the group.
+       (gnus-update-marks): Use `gnus-range-add' on a uncompressed list
+       instead, it seems to result in shorter ranges.
+
 2001-12-26 11:00:00  ShengHuo ZHU  <zsh@cs.rochester.edu>
 
        * mm-util.el (mm-iso-8859-x-to-15-region): Use
[17] gnus$

        Daniel

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Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?

[Simon Josefsson]

Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:

> Using a CVS gnus built at Sat Jan 12 16:45:56 EST 2002, from 
> CVS, I have an oddity in the behavior of the 'seen' mark.
>
> Specifically, each time I restart Gnus, *all* unread articles 
> are also 'unseen'. This is vaguely annoying I actually /use/ the 
> distinction between unseen and unread...

Might be fixed, please test.

Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?

[Robert Epprecht]

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

> Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:

>> each time I restart Gnus, *all* unread articles are also 'unseen'.

> Might be fixed, please test.

Yes, seems to be OK now, thank you.

Robert Epprecht

Re: 'seen' state reset on Gnus restart?

[Daniel Pittman]

On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:
> 
>> Using a CVS gnus built at Sat Jan 12 16:45:56 EST 2002, from CVS, I
>> have an oddity in the behavior of the 'seen' mark.
>>
>> Specifically, each time I restart Gnus, *all* unread articles are
>> also 'unseen'. This is vaguely annoying I actually /use/ the
>> distinction between unseen and unread...
> 
> Might be fixed, please test.

It works for me, thanks.
   Daniel

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