Embedded CID Images

Embedded CID Images

[Jake Colman]

Is it possible to display embedded CID images? Frequently I will get
screenshots from MS Windows and the email will display something like:

[cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]

Can these be displayed somehow?

TIA!

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Re: Embedded CID Images

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:

> Is it possible to display embedded CID images? Frequently I will get
> screenshots from MS Windows and the email will display something like:
>
> [cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]

Both gnus-article-html and mm-shr as `mm-text-html-renderer' will
display CID in HTML.

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Re: Embedded CID Images

[Richard Riley]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:
>
>> Is it possible to display embedded CID images? Frequently I will get
>> screenshots from MS Windows and the email will display something like:
>>
>> [cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]
>
> Both gnus-article-html and mm-shr as `mm-text-html-renderer' will
> display CID in HTML.

Mine is set to  gnus-article-html and all I see is cid elements as
above. Is there some accompanying voodoo needed?

Re: Embedded CID Images

[Frank Schmitt]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
>> Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:
>>
>>> Is it possible to display embedded CID images? Frequently I will get
>>> screenshots from MS Windows and the email will display something like:
>>>
>>> [cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]
>>
>> Both gnus-article-html and mm-shr as `mm-text-html-renderer' will
>> display CID in HTML.
>
> Mine is set to  gnus-article-html and all I see is cid elements as
> above. Is there some accompanying voodoo needed?

You have switched from the text-plain-part to the html-part?

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Re: Embedded CID Images

[Richard Riley]

Frank Schmitt <ich@frank-schmitt.net> writes:

> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>>
>>> Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Is it possible to display embedded CID images? Frequently I will get
>>>> screenshots from MS Windows and the email will display something like:
>>>>
>>>> [cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]
>>>
>>> Both gnus-article-html and mm-shr as `mm-text-html-renderer' will
>>> display CID in HTML.
>>
>> Mine is set to  gnus-article-html and all I see is cid elements as
>> above. Is there some accompanying voodoo needed?
>
> You have switched from the text-plain-part to the html-part?

With stock Gnus I used to see such a select : but not in NoGnus - I just
see a load of cid elements above . Another config issue? 

Re: Embedded CID Images

[Frank Schmitt]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> Frank Schmitt <ich@frank-schmitt.net> writes:
>
>> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible to display embedded CID images? Frequently I will get
>>>>> screenshots from MS Windows and the email will display something like:
>>>>>
>>>>> [cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]
>>>>
>>>> Both gnus-article-html and mm-shr as `mm-text-html-renderer' will
>>>> display CID in HTML.
>>>
>>> Mine is set to  gnus-article-html and all I see is cid elements as
>>> above. Is there some accompanying voodoo needed?
>>
>> You have switched from the text-plain-part to the html-part?
>
> With stock Gnus I used to see such a select : but not in NoGnus - I just
> see a load of cid elements above . Another config issue? 

I have 
(setq gnus-buttonized-mime-types (quote ("multipart/alternative"))) in
.gnus. This might make the difference.

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Re: Embedded CID Images

[Richard Riley]

Frank Schmitt <ich@frank-schmitt.net> writes:

> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> Frank Schmitt <ich@frank-schmitt.net> writes:
>>
>>> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible to display embedded CID images? Frequently I will get
>>>>>> screenshots from MS Windows and the email will display something like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]
>>>>>
>>>>> Both gnus-article-html and mm-shr as `mm-text-html-renderer' will
>>>>> display CID in HTML.
>>>>
>>>> Mine is set to  gnus-article-html and all I see is cid elements as
>>>> above. Is there some accompanying voodoo needed?
>>>
>>> You have switched from the text-plain-part to the html-part?
>>
>> With stock Gnus I used to see such a select : but not in NoGnus - I just
>> see a load of cid elements above . Another config issue? 
>
> I have 
> (setq gnus-buttonized-mime-types (quote ("multipart/alternative"))) in
> .gnus. This might make the difference.


My value is ("multipart/signed" "multipart/alternative").

I even set my discourage alternatives to nil.

So I guess it should be working.

But I still see no buttons to select different renderings.

Re: Embedded CID Images

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com>:

> But I still see no buttons to select different renderings.

Over the years I've seen people refer to buttonized this and buttonized
that. 

But I'm not sure if I've ever seen such a button...

Re: Embedded CID Images

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

> But I'm not sure if I've ever seen such a button...

`K b'

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Re: Embedded CID Images

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> But I still see no buttons to select different renderings.

Perhaps you're preferring the text/plain version to the text/html
version? 

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Re: Embedded CID Images

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:

> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>> But I still see no buttons to select different renderings.

> Perhaps you're preferring the text/plain version to the text/html
> version? 

Ah, I do that.  Perhaps that's why I've never seen a button?

Re: Embedded CID Images

[Dave Goldberg]

> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>> Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Is it possible to display embedded CID images? Frequently I will get
>>> screenshots from MS Windows and the email will display something like:
>>> 
>>> [cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]
>> 
>> Both gnus-article-html and mm-shr as `mm-text-html-renderer' will
>> display CID in HTML.

> Mine is set to  gnus-article-html and all I see is cid elements as
> above. Is there some accompanying voodoo needed?

Maybe set gnus-blocked-images to something other than "."?  I haven't tried it yet, but a quick look at gnus-html.el suggests it.

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Re: Embedded CID Images

[Richard Riley]

Dave Goldberg <david.goldberg6@verizon.net> writes:

>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>>> Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:
>>> 
>>>> Is it possible to display embedded CID images? Frequently I will get
>>>> screenshots from MS Windows and the email will display something like:
>>>> 
>>>> [cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]
>>> 
>>> Both gnus-article-html and mm-shr as `mm-text-html-renderer' will
>>> display CID in HTML.
>
>> Mine is set to  gnus-article-html and all I see is cid elements as
>> above. Is there some accompanying voodoo needed?
>
> Maybe set gnus-blocked-images to something other than "."?  I haven't tried it
> yet, but a quick look at gnus-html.el suggests it.

According to the doc string it's an image matching url regexp so I would
assume that matches nothing and thus blocks nothing since "." is the
default. 

However, the manual says the default is to block everything. Should ^.*
not be the default to block everything?

So what to enable everything? I tried nil with no success.

Re: Embedded CID Images

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

>>>>> [cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]

Neither mm-shr or gnus-article-html will display anything like that, so
you are getting your messages rendered by something else.

> However, the manual says the default is to block everything. Should ^.*
> not be the default to block everything?

Yes.  But cid: urls are never blocked, so the setting has no effect on
cid: urls.

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Re: Embedded CID Images

[Richard Riley]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>>>>>> [cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]
>
> Neither mm-shr or gnus-article-html will display anything like that, so
> you are getting your messages rendered by something else.
>
>> However, the manual says the default is to block everything. Should ^.*
>> not be the default to block everything?
>
> Yes.  But cid: urls are never blocked, so the setting has no effect on
> cid: urls.

Maybe worth a mention in the article.

Then getting back to the original Q : what is the correct way to show CID
items? As I said in the snipped bit, all I see is (like the OP)
something like

[cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]

I wont even pretend to even know wha CID items are : I just know, like
the OP,  I cant see them ;)

Re: Embedded CID Images

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> Then getting back to the original Q : what is the correct way to show CID
> items? As I said in the snipped bit, all I see is (like the OP)
> something like
>
> [cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]
>
> I wont even pretend to even know wha CID items are : I just know, like
> the OP,  I cant see them ;)

I don't know what they are, either.  My guess would be that you're
looking at a text/plain article that just has the string
"[cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]" in the text somewhere.

`C-d' to decompose the message.

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Re: Embedded CID Images

[Richard Riley]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> Then getting back to the original Q : what is the correct way to show CID
>> items? As I said in the snipped bit, all I see is (like the OP)
>> something like
>>
>> [cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]
>>
>> I wont even pretend to even know wha CID items are : I just know, like
>> the OP,  I cant see them ;)
>
> I don't know what they are, either.  My guess would be that you're
> looking at a text/plain article that just has the string
> "[cid:657420512@11102010-2DC7]" in the text somewhere.

They are links to text blocks in some cases, images in others.

In fact, bringing up my sample email today it works.

http://www.myupload.org/viewer.php?file=35rn5x7w2i09c5a2k0aq.png

I need to figure out what changes were made to my settings to pinpoint
what triggered it working but I did tale a new git pull today.

Re: Embedded CID Images

[Dave Goldberg]

> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Then getting back to the original Q : what is the correct way to show CID
>>> items? As I said in the snipped bit, all I see is (like the OP)
>>> something like

What's the value of mm-text-html-renderer?  If you're seeing CIDs odds are it's not set to gnus-article-html.  The logic to set it initially, if you don't set it explicitly, depends on which rendering application it finds.  If it finds w3m, it sets to gnus-article-html.  Now that I've installed w3m on my system that is the value I'm getting (I was getting "links" before) and I no longer see the CID items, but the images.

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