[Q] Forwarding MIME doesn't work ?

[Q] Forwarding MIME doesn't work ?

[Didier Verna]

	If I get a MIME message with an image and if I `S o m' to somebody,
the result is not understood as containing the image, and the whole stuff is
displayed in the article buffer.

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Re: [Q] Forwarding MIME doesn't work ?

[François Pinard]

Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:

> If I get a MIME message with an image and if I `S o m' to somebody, the
> result is not understood as containing the image, and the whole stuff
> is displayed in the article buffer.

I often use `S o m' with other people using Gnus, they just do `C-d' on
their side to recover the quoted article in all its glory.

P.S. - This is a fairly traditional use of `C-d', not at all related to
MIME dissection.

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Re: [Q] Forwarding MIME doesn't work ?

[Hrvoje Niksic]

François Pinard <pinard@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:

> I often use `S o m' with other people using Gnus, they just do `C-d'
> on their side to recover the quoted article in all its glory.
> 
> P.S. - This is a fairly traditional use of `C-d', not at all related
> to MIME dissection.

Yup.  Finally we agree about something wrt Gnus.  :-)

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Re: [Q] Forwarding MIME doesn't work ?

[Didier Verna]

	[ interesting supercite prefix isn't it ? ]

ois Pinard writes:

ois> I often use `S o m' with other people using Gnus, they just do `C-d' on
ois> their side to recover the quoted article in all its glory.

	Thanks for the hint.

ois> P.S. - This is a fairly traditional use of `C-d', not at all related to
ois> MIME dissection.

	Yup. But in this case, the work shouldn't be on the receiver's part.

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Re: [Q] Forwarding MIME doesn't work ?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:

> 	If I get a MIME message with an image and if I `S o m' to somebody,
> the result is not understood as containing the image, and the whole stuff is
> displayed in the article buffer.

`S o m' will change to use a MIME encapsulation, but that hasn't been
implemented yet.

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Re: [Q] Forwarding MIME doesn't work ?

[David S. Goldberg]

>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes:

> `S o m' will change to use a MIME encapsulation, but that hasn't
> been implemented yet.

When it is, could there please be an option to use the current
non-MIME encapsulation, perhaps by toggling some variable?  At least
one mailing list I am on (bugtraq, if it matters) requires periodic
resubscription which is automated by having me forward the resubscribe
message back to them.  Their parser doesn't recognize MIME
encapsulation.  When I used tm under 5.6.* and earlier I had some
advice on S o m that turned off MIME when I needed to do that.  While
I could certainly do that again, a cleaner solution would be
preferable :-)

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Re: [Q] Forwarding MIME doesn't work ?

[Han Pilmeyer]

>>>>> "DSG" == David S Goldberg <dsg@mitre.org> writes:

DSG> When it is, could there please be an option to use the current
DSG> non-MIME encapsulation, perhaps by toggling some variable?  At least
DSG> one mailing list I am on (bugtraq, if it matters) requires periodic
DSG> resubscription which is automated by having me forward the resubscribe
DSG> message back to them.  Their parser doesn't recognize MIME
DSG> encapsulation.

You could always use 'S D r' to resent the message. I'm assuming that
there won't be any changes to this for MIME.

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Re: [Q] Forwarding MIME doesn't work ?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

dsg@mitre.org (David S. Goldberg) writes:

> When it is, could there please be an option to use the current
> non-MIME encapsulation, perhaps by toggling some variable?

Well, a sensibly composed MIME encapsulation looks virtually as pretty 
as a non-MIME encapsulation, so I don't know whether that would be
necessary...  (And `S D r', as noted, would probably be a better
solution in the situation you describe.)

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Re: [Q] Forwarding MIME doesn't work ?

[David S. Goldberg]

> Well, a sensibly composed MIME encapsulation looks virtually as
> pretty as a non-MIME encapsulation, so I don't know whether that
> would be necessary... 

It's not a matter of prettyness, it's a matter of what netspace.org
expects a forwarded message to look like.

> (And `S D r', as noted, would probably be a better solution in the
> situation you describe.)

Unfortunately not.  They really do seem to be looking for the
currently typical forward separators (---- Begin forwarded message).
Unless, of course, something has changed in the past 6 months.  I can
try again next time they want me to re-up.  I'll also try S D r (I've
only ever tried S O m in the past).

It's really not that big a deal to me if I have to use advice for this
particular case.  I can also hope that netspace.org will eventually
recognize the message in a MIME enclosure (my email on this to their
help address many moons ago went unanswered).


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Re: [Q] Forwarding MIME doesn't work ?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

dsg@mitre.org (David S. Goldberg) writes:

> It's not a matter of prettyness, it's a matter of what netspace.org
> expects a forwarded message to look like.

Ok.  When I Mimetilate the function, I'll add an option that will give 
the old behavior as well.

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