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From: Jaap-Henk Hoepman <hoepman@cs.utwente.nl>
Cc: "(ding)" <ding@gnus.org>
Subject: Re: Python Emacs (was Re: The <word>.<word>.<word> rule)
Date: 20 May 2000 22:35:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kp1z2x6jud.fsf@utip202.cs.utwente.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Stainless Steel Rat's message of "Fri, 19 May 2000 10:42:00 -0400"

On Fri, 19 May 2000 10:42:00 -0400 Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:
> * Jaap-Henk Hoepman <hoepman@cs.utwente.nl>  on Thu, 18 May 2000
> | Actually, C is a macro assembler which makes C++ ... an object oriented
> | macro assembler:-)
> 
> Very good.  Paste a star on your forehead. :)
> 

I feel radiant... :-)

> | My problem with LISP is that it is a functional programming language used
> | imperatively, which, at least to me, makes any reasonably complex lisp
> | function very hard to read...
> 
> The idea is that you recursively break a task up into successively smaller
> tasks, then you write functions to implement these little tasks.  Getting
> back to the natural language analogy, each of these simple, "microtask"
> functions is like a word.  Words are joined to form phrases, which are
> joined to form sentences, which are joined to form paragraphs, etc.

I know the basic idea of functional programming, thank you. I also know it's
good for certain programming tasks, and bad for others, and is actually not
used all that often... 

LISP is a very bad functional programming language, because
it allows you to use it imperatively: first do this, change the program state,
then do that, etc.... and the syntax is really horrible.

I have managed, over the years, to write simple LISP code for emacs-related
stuff. There have been many times I would have liked to do something more
complex, but was stopped by the `obnoxiousness' of LISP...

Jaap-Henk

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  reply	other threads:[~2000-05-20 20:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-05-11 10:24 The <word>.<word>.<word> rule Per Abrahamsen
2000-05-12 11:50 ` Hrvoje Niksic
2000-05-12 12:57   ` Stein A. Strømme
2000-05-12 15:16     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-12 15:47       ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-12 19:58         ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-14 19:17           ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-14 19:30             ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-14 19:35               ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-14 19:46                 ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-14 20:29                   ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-14 20:46                     ` Bruce Stephens
2000-05-15 13:03                       ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-15 13:51                         ` Toby Speight
2000-05-15 14:00                           ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-14 21:30                     ` naked URLs -- a little data (Re: The <word>.<word>.<word> rule) Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-15  7:06                       ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-15 12:02                     ` The <word>.<word>.<word> rule Miroslav Zubcic
2000-05-15 12:37                       ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-15 23:14                         ` Miroslav Zubcic
2000-05-16  7:29                           ` Hrvoje Niksic
2000-05-16 11:58                             ` François Pinard
2000-05-17  8:28                               ` Python Emacs (was Re: The <word>.<word>.<word> rule) Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-17 20:06                                 ` François Pinard
2000-05-17 20:27                                   ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-17 20:37                                     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-17 21:04                                       ` Brian Edmonds
2000-05-18  1:25                                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-18 23:18                                         ` Russ Allbery
2000-05-18 20:48                                       ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-19 14:42                                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-20 20:35                                           ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman [this message]
2000-05-20 22:43                                             ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-21 19:06                                               ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-22 12:05                                               ` Per Abrahamsen
2000-05-23  0:12                                               ` Hal Snyder
     [not found]                                                 ` <m3g0raulgw.fsf@peorth.rgo.gweep.net>
2000-05-23  1:16                                                   ` Eric S. Johansson
2000-05-23  1:29                                                     ` Lloyd Zusman
2000-05-23  1:44                                                       ` real programmers(TM) Brian May
2000-05-23  7:03                                                         ` Hrvoje Niksic
2000-05-23  7:36                                                     ` Python Emacs (was Re: The <word>.<word>.<word> rule) Luc MAZARDO
2000-05-21  4:22                                             ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-21 19:07                                               ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-22 17:59                                             ` Jim Davidson
2000-05-22 19:32                                               ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-22 22:54                                               ` François Pinard
2000-05-17 20:59                                     ` François Pinard
2000-05-17 21:29                                       ` Eric S. Johansson
2000-05-17 22:15                                         ` Felix Lee
2000-05-18  6:28                                           ` Randal L. Schwartz
2000-05-18 12:22                                             ` Felix Lee
2000-05-17 22:55                                         ` Steve Harris
2000-05-18  0:10                                         ` Brian May
2000-05-18 11:56                                           ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-18 12:27                                           ` Felix Lee
2000-05-18  9:17                                         ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-18 11:46                                           ` getting started again was:Re: " Eric S. Johansson
2000-05-18 14:08                                             ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-18 20:13                                               ` getting started again Eric S. Johansson
2000-05-18 21:32                                                 ` Erik Johannessen
     [not found]                                                 ` <x77lcr7deb.fsf@!  rask.void.nil>
2000-05-18 21:51                                                   ` Eric S. Johansson
2000-05-22 18:12                                                 ` Rene Matteau
2000-05-18 19:31                                         ` Python Emacs (was Re: The <word>.<word>.<word> rule) Jim Davidson
2000-05-18  8:50                                     ` Simon Josefsson
2000-05-18  9:33                                     ` Luc MAZARDO
2000-05-18 20:44                                     ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-19 10:32                                       ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-22 12:19                                     ` Didier Verna
2000-08-12 19:55                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2000-05-15 12:52                       ` The <word>.<word>.<word> rule Jørgen Wahlberg
2000-05-15 13:32                         ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-14 20:38                   ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-05-15  5:34               ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-15  6:40                 ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-15 12:25                 ` Andreas Fuchs
2000-05-14 19:32             ` Andreas Fuchs
2000-05-14 20:06             ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-16 15:38             ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-14 19:23           ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-12 15:52     ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-12 23:06       ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-13  9:07         ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-13 12:56           ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-14 10:54           ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-14 11:43             ` Andi Hechtbauer
2000-05-14 19:25               ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-14 19:33                 ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-14 19:57                   ` Felix Lee
2000-05-15 11:20                   ` Toby Speight
2000-05-14 20:54                 ` Bjørn Mork
2000-05-15  5:28                   ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-15 18:24                     ` Bjørn Mork
2000-05-15 18:38                       ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-15 18:40                       ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-15 14:11             ` New URL button rule (was: Re: The <word>.<word>.<word> rule) Per Abrahamsen
2000-05-15 14:18               ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-15 15:28               ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-15 16:11                 ` Per Abrahamsen
2000-05-15 16:27                   ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-15 18:31                     ` Bjørn Mork
2000-05-15 19:58                   ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-16  7:25                     ` Hrvoje Niksic
2000-05-16 11:08               ` Per Abrahamsen
2000-05-13  9:14         ` The <word>.<word>.<word> rule Steinar Bang
2000-05-13 10:56           ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-05-13 13:01           ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-15 14:02           ` Per Abrahamsen

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