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From: "François Pinard" <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Python Emacs (was Re: The <word>.<word>.<word> rule)
Date: 22 May 2000 18:54:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <oq8zx219i3.fsf@titan.progiciels-bpi.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Jim Davidson's message of "Mon, 22 May 2000 17:59:40 GMT"

Jim Davidson <jdavidson@nospam.com> writes:

> Jaap-Henk Hoepman <hoepman@cs.utwente.nl> writes:

> > LISP [...] syntax is really horrible.

> LISP has an extremely elegant syntax.  If you've ever heard of, say,
> C++ or Java, those are examples of horrible syntaxes.

More exactly, LISP has almost no syntax, and that simplicity has elegance,
especially since programs and data use the same simple syntax.  However, at
the conceptual level, some LISPs are more elegant than others.  Emacs LISP
is not the best I know in that respect! :-)

Like Didier, I think Scheme is especially attractive.  And Python is
a kind of Scheme with a bit more of syntax and redundancy, increasing
overall legibility.  Object oriented programming is also more friendly
than in Scheme.

Guilified Emacs might easily become a bit repulsive from the mix of LISP
styles, leading to impurity all over.  While a Python Emacs would have
enough distance with LISP to maintain enough clarity.  But the definitive
advantage of Python Emacs is that it would support Python Gnus :-).

-- 
François Pinard   http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard





  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-05-22 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-05-11 10:24 The <word>.<word>.<word> rule Per Abrahamsen
2000-05-12 11:50 ` Hrvoje Niksic
2000-05-12 12:57   ` Stein A. Strømme
2000-05-12 15:16     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-12 15:47       ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-12 19:58         ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-14 19:17           ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-14 19:30             ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-14 19:35               ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-14 19:46                 ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-14 20:29                   ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-14 20:46                     ` Bruce Stephens
2000-05-15 13:03                       ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-15 13:51                         ` Toby Speight
2000-05-15 14:00                           ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-14 21:30                     ` naked URLs -- a little data (Re: The <word>.<word>.<word> rule) Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-15  7:06                       ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-15 12:02                     ` The <word>.<word>.<word> rule Miroslav Zubcic
2000-05-15 12:37                       ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-15 23:14                         ` Miroslav Zubcic
2000-05-16  7:29                           ` Hrvoje Niksic
2000-05-16 11:58                             ` François Pinard
2000-05-17  8:28                               ` Python Emacs (was Re: The <word>.<word>.<word> rule) Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-17 20:06                                 ` François Pinard
2000-05-17 20:27                                   ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-17 20:37                                     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-17 21:04                                       ` Brian Edmonds
2000-05-18  1:25                                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-18 23:18                                         ` Russ Allbery
2000-05-18 20:48                                       ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-19 14:42                                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-20 20:35                                           ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-20 22:43                                             ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-21 19:06                                               ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-22 12:05                                               ` Per Abrahamsen
2000-05-23  0:12                                               ` Hal Snyder
     [not found]                                                 ` <m3g0raulgw.fsf@peorth.rgo.gweep.net>
2000-05-23  1:16                                                   ` Eric S. Johansson
2000-05-23  1:29                                                     ` Lloyd Zusman
2000-05-23  1:44                                                       ` real programmers(TM) Brian May
2000-05-23  7:03                                                         ` Hrvoje Niksic
2000-05-23  7:36                                                     ` Python Emacs (was Re: The <word>.<word>.<word> rule) Luc MAZARDO
2000-05-21  4:22                                             ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-21 19:07                                               ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-22 17:59                                             ` Jim Davidson
2000-05-22 19:32                                               ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-22 22:54                                               ` François Pinard [this message]
2000-05-17 20:59                                     ` François Pinard
2000-05-17 21:29                                       ` Eric S. Johansson
2000-05-17 22:15                                         ` Felix Lee
2000-05-18  6:28                                           ` Randal L. Schwartz
2000-05-18 12:22                                             ` Felix Lee
2000-05-17 22:55                                         ` Steve Harris
2000-05-18  0:10                                         ` Brian May
2000-05-18 11:56                                           ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-18 12:27                                           ` Felix Lee
2000-05-18  9:17                                         ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-18 11:46                                           ` getting started again was:Re: " Eric S. Johansson
2000-05-18 14:08                                             ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-18 20:13                                               ` getting started again Eric S. Johansson
2000-05-18 21:32                                                 ` Erik Johannessen
     [not found]                                                 ` <x77lcr7deb.fsf@!  rask.void.nil>
2000-05-18 21:51                                                   ` Eric S. Johansson
2000-05-22 18:12                                                 ` Rene Matteau
2000-05-18 19:31                                         ` Python Emacs (was Re: The <word>.<word>.<word> rule) Jim Davidson
2000-05-18  8:50                                     ` Simon Josefsson
2000-05-18  9:33                                     ` Luc MAZARDO
2000-05-18 20:44                                     ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-19 10:32                                       ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-22 12:19                                     ` Didier Verna
2000-08-12 19:55                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2000-05-15 12:52                       ` The <word>.<word>.<word> rule Jørgen Wahlberg
2000-05-15 13:32                         ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-14 20:38                   ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-05-15  5:34               ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-15  6:40                 ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-15 12:25                 ` Andreas Fuchs
2000-05-14 19:32             ` Andreas Fuchs
2000-05-14 20:06             ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-16 15:38             ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
2000-05-14 19:23           ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-12 15:52     ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-12 23:06       ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-13  9:07         ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-13 12:56           ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-14 10:54           ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-14 11:43             ` Andi Hechtbauer
2000-05-14 19:25               ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-14 19:33                 ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-14 19:57                   ` Felix Lee
2000-05-15 11:20                   ` Toby Speight
2000-05-14 20:54                 ` Bjørn Mork
2000-05-15  5:28                   ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-15 18:24                     ` Bjørn Mork
2000-05-15 18:38                       ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-15 18:40                       ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-15 14:11             ` New URL button rule (was: Re: The <word>.<word>.<word> rule) Per Abrahamsen
2000-05-15 14:18               ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-15 15:28               ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-15 16:11                 ` Per Abrahamsen
2000-05-15 16:27                   ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-15 18:31                     ` Bjørn Mork
2000-05-15 19:58                   ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-16  7:25                     ` Hrvoje Niksic
2000-05-16 11:08               ` Per Abrahamsen
2000-05-13  9:14         ` The <word>.<word>.<word> rule Steinar Bang
2000-05-13 10:56           ` Karl Eichwalder
2000-05-13 13:01           ` Stainless Steel Rat
2000-05-15 14:02           ` Per Abrahamsen

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