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* Re: help, I've crippled my gnus
@ 1998-07-10  2:42 root
  1998-07-10  5:12 ` SL Baur
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: root @ 1998-07-10  2:42 UTC (permalink / raw)


OK, I can send mail from root, but not from any user.  I'm thinking
this is probably a permissions problem, but I can't find the culprit.

/tmp is 1777 root.root
/var/spool/mail is 775 root.mail
/var/spool/mqueue is 755 root.mail

These are probably too loose, if anything.  I don't know what else to
look at.

--
Bud Rogers <budr@tanet.net>


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* Re: help, I've crippled my gnus
  1998-07-10  2:42 help, I've crippled my gnus root
@ 1998-07-10  5:12 ` SL Baur
  1998-07-10 17:46   ` Bud Rogers
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: SL Baur @ 1998-07-10  5:12 UTC (permalink / raw)


Uh oh.  ding@gnus.org is still bombing for me:

The original message was received at Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:04:44 -0700
from steve@localhost

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
ding@gnus.org

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to claymore.vcinet.com.:
>>> RCPT To:<ding@gnus.org>
<<< 551 we do not relay
550 ding@gnus.org... User unknown


root  <root@twocups.tanet.net> writes:

> OK, I can send mail from root, but not from any user.  I'm thinking
> this is probably a permissions problem, but I can't find the culprit.

> /tmp is 1777 root.root
> /var/spool/mail is 775 root.mail
> /var/spool/mqueue is 755 root.mail

> These are probably too loose, if anything.  I don't know what else to
> look at.

Being able to do something as root but not as an oridinary user is a
permission problem 99.9999% of the time.  The permissions you listed
look fine.  Is your sendmail binary properly setuid/setgid?

You might also try using smtpmail and talking to the local mail server
over a network socket.

To use smtpmail you would need to set something like:

(setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
;; If this bombs, add `(autoload 'smtpmail-send-it "smtpmail")', I
;; forget which version of XEmacs we fixed this in.

(setq smtpmail-smtp-server "localhost")


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* Re: help, I've crippled my gnus
  1998-07-10  5:12 ` SL Baur
@ 1998-07-10 17:46   ` Bud Rogers
  1998-07-12  1:44     ` Bud Rogers
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bud Rogers @ 1998-07-10 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw)


SL Baur <steve@xemacs.org> writes:

> Being able to do something as root but not as an oridinary user is a
> permission problem 99.9999% of the time.  The permissions you listed
> look fine.  Is your sendmail binary properly setuid/setgid?
> 

My thoughts exactly, but I think sendmail is OK.

UUbudr ~ $ ls -l /usr/lib/sendmail
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           18 Jul  5 13:18 /usr/lib/sendmail -> /usr/sbin/sendmail*

UUbudr ~ $ ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail
-r-sr-sr-x   1 root     bin        264008 Aug 10  1997 /usr/sbin/sendmail*

If I compose a message in gnus and try send it with C-c C-c, it fails with
this error:

Signaling: (file-error "Cannot open" "Bad file number" t)
  call-process-internal("/usr/lib/sendmail" "/tmp/emacsa10377" 0 nil "-oi" "-f" "budr" "-oem" "-odb" "-t")
  apply(call-process-internal "/usr/lib/sendmail" "/tmp/emacsa10377" 0 nil ("-oi" "-f" "budr" "-oem" "-odb" "-t"))
  call-process("/usr/lib/sendmail" "/tmp/emacsa10377" 0 nil "-oi" "-f" "budr" "-oem" "-odb" "-t")
  apply(call-process "/usr/lib/sendmail" "/tmp/emacsa10377" 0 nil ("-oi" "-f" "budr" "-oem" "-odb" "-t"))
  call-process-region(1 310 "/usr/lib/sendmail" nil 0 nil "-oi" "-f" "budr" "-oem" "-odb" "-t")
  apply(call-process-region (1 310 "/usr/lib/sendmail" nil 0 nil "-oi" "-f" "budr" "-oem" "-odb" "-t"))
  message-send-mail-with-sendmail()
  message-send-mail(nil)
  message-send-via-mail(nil)
  message-send(nil)
  message-send-and-exit(nil)
  call-interactively(message-send-and-exit)

At that point there is a valid looking mail message in /tmp/emacsxxxx.  I
can send that message manually like this:

/usr/lib/sendmail -oi -oem -odb -t < /etc/emacsxxxx

as user budr and it goes out fine.  

> You might also try using smtpmail and talking to the local mail server
> over a network socket.
> 
> To use smtpmail you would need to set something like:
> 
> (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
> ;; If this bombs, add `(autoload 'smtpmail-send-it "smtpmail")', I
> ;; forget which version of XEmacs we fixed this in.
> 
> (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "localhost")
>

I put that snippet in my .gnus verbatim and sent myself a test message
without problem.  We'll see if I can send this to the list.  Assuming it
works, that will solve my immediate problem (extreme gnus withdrawal) but I
sure would like to figure out what I broke.

Thanks, Steve.  
 

-- 

Bud Rogers <budr@tanet.net>
I wore khaki when khaki wasn't cool.




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* Re: help, I've crippled my gnus
  1998-07-10 17:46   ` Bud Rogers
@ 1998-07-12  1:44     ` Bud Rogers
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bud Rogers @ 1998-07-12  1:44 UTC (permalink / raw)


Bud Rogers <budr@tanet.net> writes:

> I put that snippet in my .gnus verbatim and sent myself a test message
> without problem.  We'll see if I can send this to the list.  Assuming it
> works, that will solve my immediate problem (extreme gnus withdrawal) but I
> sure would like to figure out what I broke.

/dev/null 640 root.sys

Sometimes I amaze myself...

-- 

Bud Rogers <budr@tanet.net>
I wore khaki when khaki wasn't cool.


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* Re: help I've crippled my gnus
@ 1998-07-08 20:58 Bud Rogers
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bud Rogers @ 1998-07-08 20:58 UTC (permalink / raw)


Oops, I lied.  My xemacs is 20.3, not 20.4.  Don't think that would
matter, but...


Bud Rogers <budr@tanet.net>
I wore khaki when khaki wasn't cool.



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