* help, lost messages in ognus
@ 2001-03-08 17:01 Nick Papadonis
2001-03-08 19:23 ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-03-08 19:27 ` help, lost messages in ognus Paul Jarc
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From: Nick Papadonis @ 2001-03-08 17:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
I'm using ognus checked out of CVS yesterday. After I moved
25 messages from one nnml: group to another, then restarted gnus, I
lost all the messages in the original group. I checked the orig directory
and the files are still
there, but messages are not displayed in gnus.
I think the problem is in my .newsrc.eld file. This is the line
refering to the group.
("nnml:mail.misc" (3 . 439) ((1 . 1272)) ((cache 11 14 368 374 376 380
393 418 432 (434 . 435) (442 . 445) (448 . 449)) (reply 435))
Anyone know the format of this line (gnus-newsrc-alist)?
Apparently it isn't showing ANY of the messages in the mail/misc
directory /home/nick/Mail/mail/misc:
1004 1043 1098 1124 1150 1172 1191 1211 1236 1263 797 865 925 977
1010 1044 1099 1126 1151 1173 1192 1212 1237 1264 798 867 929 978
1013 1045 1100 1128 1152 1174 1193 1213 1240 1265 799 871 931 984
1017 1046 1101 1129 1154 1176 1195 1214 1242 1266 802 875 936 987
1023 1048 1102 1130 1155 1177 1196 1215 1243 1267 804 878 946 988
1025 1051 1103 1131 1157 1178 1197 1216 1244 1268 805 879 947 993
1027 1052 1106 1132 1158 1179 1198 1217 1245 1269 807 880 950 995
1028 1057 1107 1134 1160 1180 1199 1218 1249 1270 815 882 955
1030 1064 1108 1135 1161 1181 1200 1222 1251 1271 816 887 956
1032 1067 1110 1136 1162 1182 1201 1223 1254 1272 838 888 958
1034 1068 1111 1137 1163 1183 1202 1225 1255 454 844 891 960
1035 1069 1112 1138 1164 1184 1203 1227 1256 623 858 896 961
1037 1072 1116 1143 1165 1186 1205 1230 1257 715 859 897 966
1038 1075 1117 1144 1166 1187 1206 1231 1258 718 860 910 969
1040 1078 1120 1145 1167 1188 1207 1232 1259 762 862 918 971
1041 1080 1121 1146 1168 1189 1209 1233 1261 765 863 920 972
1042 1097 1122 1149 1169 1190 1210 1234 1262 787 864 921 974
Any insight greatley appreciated.
--
- Nick
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* Re: help, lost messages in ognus
2001-03-08 17:01 help, lost messages in ognus Nick Papadonis
@ 2001-03-08 19:23 ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-03-09 1:10 ` Nick Papadonis
2001-03-08 19:27 ` help, lost messages in ognus Paul Jarc
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Alexandre Oliva @ 2001-03-08 19:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
On Mar 8, 2001, Nick Papadonis <npapadon@yahoo.com> wrote:
> and the files are still
> there, but messages are not displayed in gnus.
M-x nnml-generate-nov-databases-1 ?
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* Re: help, lost messages in ognus
2001-03-08 17:01 help, lost messages in ognus Nick Papadonis
2001-03-08 19:23 ` Alexandre Oliva
@ 2001-03-08 19:27 ` Paul Jarc
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From: Paul Jarc @ 2001-03-08 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Nick Papadonis <npapadon@yahoo.com> writes:
> I think the problem is in my .newsrc.eld file. This is the line
> refering to the group.
> ("nnml:mail.misc" (3 . 439) ((1 . 1272)) ((cache 11 14 368 374 376 380
> 393 418 432 (434 . 435) (442 . 445) (448 . 449)) (reply 435))
>
> Anyone know the format of this line (gnus-newsrc-alist)?
It's a group info. See the Group Info node in the Gnus manual. It
looks like you're missing a closing paren at the end, but that might
just be how you snipped it.
paul
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* Re: help, lost messages in ognus
2001-03-08 19:23 ` Alexandre Oliva
@ 2001-03-09 1:10 ` Nick Papadonis
2001-03-09 2:04 ` Small Gnus UI patch Colin Marquardt
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nick Papadonis @ 2001-03-09 1:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Thanks... i used:
M-x nnml-generate-nov-databases
Fixed everything, hopefully. :)
- Nick
Alexandre Oliva <oliva@lsd.ic.unicamp.br> writes:
> On Mar 8, 2001, Nick Papadonis <npapadon@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > and the files are still
> > there, but messages are not displayed in gnus.
>
> M-x nnml-generate-nov-databases-1 ?
>
> --
> Alexandre Oliva Enjoy Guarana', see http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/
> Red Hat GCC Developer aoliva@{cygnus.com, redhat.com}
> CS PhD student at IC-Unicamp oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org}
> Free Software Evangelist *Please* write to mailing lists, not to me
>
--
- Nick
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* Small Gnus UI patch
2001-03-09 1:10 ` Nick Papadonis
@ 2001-03-09 2:04 ` Colin Marquardt
2001-03-09 12:41 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Colin Marquardt @ 2001-03-09 2:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
here is a small patch which makes Gnus a bit clearer about what is
meant ("partially" could also mean "cut off the rest and send only
the first part").
Ideally, you would have the choice between three options here:
* send message in parts,
* send in one big message,
* cancel.
I don't know enough about Emacs LISP to do that though...
The first part of the patch fixes a plain typo (or Freudian slip?).
Cheers,
Colin
*** /tmp/message.el.orig Thu Mar 8 17:57:07 2001
--- /tmp/message.el Thu Mar 8 17:57:07 2001
***************
*** 2358,2364 ****
(pop actions)))
(defun message-send-mail-partially ()
! "Sendmail as message/partial."
;; replace the header delimiter with a blank line
(goto-char (point-min))
(re-search-forward
--- 2358,2364 ----
(pop actions)))
(defun message-send-mail-partially ()
! "Send mail as message/partial."
;; replace the header delimiter with a blank line
(goto-char (point-min))
(re-search-forward
***************
*** 2483,2489 ****
(message-insert-courtesy-copy))
(if (or (not message-send-mail-partially-limit)
(< (point-max) message-send-mail-partially-limit)
! (not (y-or-n-p "The message size is too large, should it be sent partially? ")))
(mm-with-unibyte-current-buffer
(funcall message-send-mail-function))
(message-send-mail-partially)))
--- 2483,2489 ----
(message-insert-courtesy-copy))
(if (or (not message-send-mail-partially-limit)
(< (point-max) message-send-mail-partially-limit)
! (not (y-or-n-p "Message exceeds message-send-mail-partially-limit, send in parts? ")))
(mm-with-unibyte-current-buffer
(funcall message-send-mail-function))
(message-send-mail-partially)))
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* Re: Small Gnus UI patch
2001-03-09 2:04 ` Small Gnus UI patch Colin Marquardt
@ 2001-03-09 12:41 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-03-09 19:21 ` Colin Marquardt
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2001-03-09 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
On 08 Mar 2001, Colin Marquardt wrote:
> Ideally, you would have the choice between three options here:
> * send message in parts,
> * send in one big message,
> * cancel.
> I don't know enough about Emacs LISP to do that though...
`C-g' is your friend for cancelling. No Lisp required.
kai
--
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* Re: Small Gnus UI patch
2001-03-09 12:41 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2001-03-09 19:21 ` Colin Marquardt
2001-03-09 20:48 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-03-09 23:53 ` Daniel Pittman
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From: Colin Marquardt @ 2001-03-09 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> On 08 Mar 2001, Colin Marquardt wrote:
>
> > Ideally, you would have the choice between three options here:
> > * send message in parts,
> > * send in one big message,
> > * cancel.
> > I don't know enough about Emacs LISP to do that though...
>
> `C-g' is your friend for cancelling. No Lisp required.
That's true, and I do this. However, I wonder if it cleans up things
nicely that might have happened to the message buffer (things like
inserting headers etc.)?
Colin
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* Re: Small Gnus UI patch
2001-03-09 19:21 ` Colin Marquardt
@ 2001-03-09 20:48 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-03-09 23:53 ` Daniel Pittman
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2001-03-09 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
On 09 Mar 2001, Colin Marquardt wrote:
> Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:
>
>> `C-g' is your friend for cancelling. No Lisp required.
>
> That's true, and I do this. However, I wonder if it cleans up things
> nicely that might have happened to the message buffer (things like
> inserting headers etc.)?
Hm. Hmmm... Maybe you should ask before doing anything :-)
kai
--
Be indiscrete. Do it continuously.
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* Re: Small Gnus UI patch
2001-03-09 19:21 ` Colin Marquardt
2001-03-09 20:48 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2001-03-09 23:53 ` Daniel Pittman
2001-03-10 0:47 ` Colin Marquardt
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Pittman @ 2001-03-09 23:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 09 Mar 2001, Colin Marquardt wrote:
> Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:
>
>> On 08 Mar 2001, Colin Marquardt wrote:
>>
>> > Ideally, you would have the choice between three options here:
>> > * send message in parts,
>> > * send in one big message,
>> > * cancel.
>> > I don't know enough about Emacs LISP to do that though...
>>
>> `C-g' is your friend for cancelling. No Lisp required.
>
> That's true, and I do this. However, I wonder if it cleans up things
> nicely that might have happened to the message buffer (things like
> inserting headers etc.)?
(condition-case nil
(progn
;; We love lisp here, baby...
)
(error (message "Something in the progn signalled an error..."))
(quit (message "Quit called by the user...")))
Daniel
--
These sort of boobies think that people come to balls to do nothing but dance;
whereas everyone knows that the real business of a ball is either to look out
for a wife, to look after a wife, or to look after someone else's wife.
-- R. S. Surtees, _Mr Facey Romford's Hounds_ (1865)
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* Re: Small Gnus UI patch
2001-03-09 23:53 ` Daniel Pittman
@ 2001-03-10 0:47 ` Colin Marquardt
2001-03-10 15:11 ` Toby Speight
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Colin Marquardt @ 2001-03-10 0:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:
> On 09 Mar 2001, Colin Marquardt wrote:
> > Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> >
> >> On 08 Mar 2001, Colin Marquardt wrote:
> >>
> >> > Ideally, you would have the choice between three options here:
> >> > * send message in parts,
> >> > * send in one big message,
> >> > * cancel.
> >> > I don't know enough about Emacs LISP to do that though...
> >>
> >> `C-g' is your friend for cancelling. No Lisp required.
> >
> > That's true, and I do this. However, I wonder if it cleans up things
> > nicely that might have happened to the message buffer (things like
> > inserting headers etc.)?
>
> (condition-case nil
> (progn
> ;; We love lisp here, baby...
> )
> (error (message "Something in the progn signalled an error..."))
> (quit (message "Quit called by the user...")))
Thanks, I learned something new, but still, I do not know how much
is going on in the message buffer before and after the partial-limit
is checked. One would probably need to wrap a lot of functions with
that.
It's just... C-g seemed to work fine the one or two times I used it at
this point, but I always have an uneasy feeling every time I interrupt
Gnus in its magical and devious ways, that's all :-)
Cheers,
Colin
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* Re: Small Gnus UI patch
2001-03-10 0:47 ` Colin Marquardt
@ 2001-03-10 15:11 ` Toby Speight
2001-03-12 1:17 ` Colin Marquardt
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Toby Speight @ 2001-03-10 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
0> In article <ysd6wv9yqwky.fsf@sol-cmarquar.pet.usa.alcatel.com>,
0> Colin Marquardt <URL:mailto:colin.marquardt@usa.alcatel.com> ("Colin") wrote:
Colin> It's just... C-g seemed to work fine the one or two times I
Colin> used it at this point, but I always have an uneasy feeling
Colin> every time I interrupt Gnus in its magical and devious ways,
Colin> ...
Message is pretty robust. I quite often interrupt in the middle of my
message-send-hook; it does make changes to the buffer, but things like
Date etc. are cleared out next time you start sending. Unless you've
set your message-deletable-headers to a strange value, or something.
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* Re: Small Gnus UI patch
2001-03-10 15:11 ` Toby Speight
@ 2001-03-12 1:17 ` Colin Marquardt
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Colin Marquardt @ 2001-03-12 1:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
Toby Speight <streapadair@gmx.net> writes:
> Message is pretty robust. I quite often interrupt in the middle of my
> message-send-hook; it does make changes to the buffer, but things like
> Date etc. are cleared out next time you start sending. Unless you've
> set your message-deletable-headers to a strange value, or something.
Yes, that was my experience too. But still, it feels not right.
"[...] and has no need for subtlety". Not that it's quick to anger,
right :-)
Cheers,
Colin
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