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From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net>
Subject: Re: bad (i.e. serious) mail problems
Date: 29 Mar 1999 20:04:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3g16nrdo7.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Dmitry Yaitskov's message of "28 Mar 1999 13:16:09 -0500"

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I've gone back to determine where the problem might be.  It is not Gnus,
and it is not pop3.

* Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com>  on Sun, 28 Mar 1999
| [...]  If I understand that situation correctly (please tell me that I'm
| wrong) this is kind of by design. Or am I missing something here?

Your MTA is.

Gnus uses Content-Length headers, when they exist, to determine where to
split messages.  When they do not exist, it uses SMTP envelopes (what you
mistakenly call 'headers') just like Berkeley mail and every POP server
known to me to delimit messages.  If your MTA does not generate a
Content-Length header, it is required to escape lines that look like
envelopes.  All in all, Gnus has been very good at Doing the Right Thing
with properly formed messages.

Your MTA is not generating Content-Length headers, nor is it escaping lines
that look like envelopes.  In short, it is broken -- at least that is my
supposition.

I do not want to add your patch to pop3.el.  Message transports are not
allowed to modify message bodies in any way.  Less (or perhaps more,
depending on one's perspective) importantly, your patch is a workaround for
what appears to be a really badly broken MTA, one that I have no means (or
intention, sorry) of testing against.  I cannot support code that I cannot
(or for some reason will not) test against.  Sorry.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-03-30  1:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-02-23 23:50 Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-02-26  8:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-02-26 13:29   ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-02-26 16:44     ` Neil Crellin
1999-02-27  3:24       ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-02-27 13:07         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-02-28  5:19           ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-02-28  5:32           ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-02-28 12:17             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-03-01 16:58 ` Shane Holder
1999-03-02 15:08   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-03-02 16:06     ` Shane Holder
1999-03-04  1:19       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-03-04 17:10         ` Shane Holder
1999-03-04 20:24           ` Shane Holder
1999-03-04 20:50             ` Harry Putnam
1999-03-04 22:55               ` Shane Holder
1999-03-05  9:21                 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-08 16:12                   ` Shane Holder
1999-03-08 17:27                     ` Shane Holder
1999-03-19  8:37               ` Simon Michael
1999-03-19 17:38                 ` Shane Holder
1999-03-28 15:25                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-03-28 18:16                     ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-03-29  9:45                       ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-29 17:32                         ` bad (i.e. serious) mail problems - solution, kind of Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-03-29 17:45                           ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-03-29 20:37                             ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-03-30  1:05                               ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-30  1:59                                 ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-03-30 15:25                                   ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-30  1:04                       ` Stainless Steel Rat [this message]
1999-03-30  1:56                         ` bad (i.e. serious) mail problems Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-03-30 15:12                           ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-30 15:18                             ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-30 22:08                               ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-31 13:13                                 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-31 15:20                                   ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-31 15:34                                     ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-30 17:10                             ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-03-31  0:30                               ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-31  1:17                                 ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-03-31  1:32                                   ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-31  3:06                                     ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-03-31 15:34                                       ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-31 15:47                                         ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-31  3:23                                     ` Greg Stark
1999-03-31  3:37                                       ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-03-31 15:36                                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-31 16:39                                           ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-03-31 12:35                                     ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-31 14:47                                       ` Frank D. Cringle
1999-04-01  2:05                                         ` Russ Allbery
1999-03-31 15:11                                       ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-31 15:36                                         ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-31 20:29                                           ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-04-01  9:06                                             ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-31 16:21                                         ` Christopher K Davis
1999-03-31 20:35                                           ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-31 21:24                                             ` Christopher K Davis
1999-04-01  1:07                                               ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-04-01  3:27                                                 ` Christopher K Davis
1999-04-01  9:03                                               ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-04-01  9:23                                               ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-04-01 22:06                                                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-04-02  6:54                                                   ` Hans de Graaff
1999-04-02 10:18                                                   ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-04-02 17:51                                                     ` Stainless Steel Rat
     [not found]                                                     ` <99Apr2.124830est.13869-2@gateway.inters!  ys.com>
1999-04-03 10:04                                                       ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-04-03 13:37                                                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-04-17  5:58                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-04-02 13:39                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-03-31  9:59                                 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-30 18:31                             ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-03-31  0:31                               ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-31  1:19                                 ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-03-30  9:55                         ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-30 15:20                           ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-30 15:34                             ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-31  0:12                               ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-31 13:13                                 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-31 15:15                                   ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-31 15:32                                     ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-31 15:47                                       ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-03-31 16:19                                         ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-31 20:36                                           ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-04-01  2:15                                             ` Russ Allbery
1999-04-01  8:59                                             ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-31 16:24                                         ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-03-29 16:48                     ` Shane Holder
1999-04-02 13:33                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-03-09 20:11             ` Shane Holder
1999-03-09 20:47               ` bad (i.e. serious) mail problems (POSSIBLE culprit found) Shane Holder
1999-03-15 15:31                 ` Shane Holder
1999-03-28 15:04                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-03-09 21:54               ` bad (i.e. serious) mail problems Harry Putnam
1999-03-12 22:48                 ` Shane Holder
1999-03-12 23:19                   ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-03-13  0:28                     ` Shane Holder

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