* gnus doesn't obey header settings.
@ 2002-12-02 21:33 Maciej Matysiak
2002-12-03 3:10 ` Jesper Harder
2002-12-03 7:28 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Maciej Matysiak @ 2002-12-02 21:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
hi,
for some sad reason i had to set up my gnus environment from scratch.
the only problem i have so far is with viewing articles. here's snippet from
my .gnus file:
(require 'gnus-art)
(setq gnus-treat-hide-boring-headers nil)
(setq gnus-show-all-headers t)
(setq gnus-visible-headers nil)
(setq gnus-ignored-headers
(concat
"^\\("
(regexp-opt
'(
"Message-ID"
"Received"
"References"
"X-Cache"
"X-MimeOLE"
"X-MSMail-Priority"
"Xref"
))
"\\):")
)
gnus should show all the article's headers except these specified above, i
think, but it shows all the headers. any idea why? missing hook, forgotten
setq? i hope that the regexp looks ok.
and another thing:
(setq gnus-sorted-header-list
(concat
"^\\("
(regexp-opt
'(
"From"
"To"
"Cc"
"Newsgroups"
"Followup-To"
"Subject"
"Date"
"X-Sent"
"Organization"
"X-Mailer"
"User-Agent"
))
"\\):")
)
the above should tell gnus to display article's headers in such order, but has
no effect at all. please someone enlighten me before i start reading sources ;)
i'm using oort from cvs (updated few hours ago).
m.m. (scared after using webmail for few days)
--
use gnus, not guns!
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* Re: gnus doesn't obey header settings.
2002-12-02 21:33 gnus doesn't obey header settings Maciej Matysiak
@ 2002-12-03 3:10 ` Jesper Harder
2002-12-03 7:28 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Jesper Harder @ 2002-12-03 3:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
Maciej Matysiak <phoner.ding@blah.pl> writes:
> (setq gnus-treat-hide-boring-headers nil)
> (setq gnus-show-all-headers t)
> (setq gnus-visible-headers nil)
> (setq gnus-ignored-headers
> [snip]
>
> gnus should show all the article's headers except these specified
> above, i think, but it shows all the headers. any idea why?
Don't set `gnus-show-all-headers' to t if you want some headers to be
hidden.
> (setq gnus-sorted-header-list
> (concat
> "^\\("
> (regexp-opt
> '(
> "From"
> "To"
> [...]
> ))
> "\\):")
> )
>
> the above should tell gnus to display article's headers in such order,
> but has no effect at all.
Make it a list of regexps not _one_ single regexp.
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* Re: gnus doesn't obey header settings.
2002-12-02 21:33 gnus doesn't obey header settings Maciej Matysiak
2002-12-03 3:10 ` Jesper Harder
@ 2002-12-03 7:28 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-12-03 14:19 ` Maciej Matysiak
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-12-03 7:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
Maciej Matysiak <phoner.ding@blah.pl> writes:
> (setq gnus-show-all-headers t)
This means to show all headers, regardless of other variables.
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* Re: gnus doesn't obey header settings.
2002-12-03 7:28 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-12-03 14:19 ` Maciej Matysiak
2002-12-03 15:37 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-12-03 18:04 ` Jesper Harder
0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Maciej Matysiak @ 2002-12-03 14:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) writes:
>> (setq gnus-show-all-headers t)
> This means to show all headers, regardless of other variables.
Jesper Harder <harder@myrealbox.com> writes:
> Don't set `gnus-show-all-headers' to t if you want some headers to be
> hidden.
done. no change :( gnus still shows all the headers in articles.
>> (setq gnus-sorted-header-list
>> (concat
>> "^\\("
>> (regexp-opt
>> '(
>> "From"
>> "To"
>> [...]
>> ))
>> "\\):")
>> )
>>
>> the above should tell gnus to display article's headers in such order,
>> but has no effect at all.
> Make it a list of regexps not _one_ single regexp.
like that:
(setq gnus-sorted-header-list
'(
"^From:"
"^To:"
"^Cc:"
"^Newsgroups:"
"^Followup-To:"
"^Subject:"
"^Date:"
"^X-Sent:"
"^Organization:"
"^X-Mailer:"
"^User-Agent:"
))
? still no effect, gnus shows the headers in chaotic way.
how can i debug why gnus ignores the settings? i'm really confused.
(why only headers' settings?)
m.m.
--
use gnus, not guns!
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* Re: gnus doesn't obey header settings.
2002-12-03 14:19 ` Maciej Matysiak
@ 2002-12-03 15:37 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-12-03 16:34 ` Maciej Matysiak
2002-12-03 18:04 ` Jesper Harder
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-12-03 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
Maciej Matysiak <phoner.ding@blah.pl> writes:
> done. no change :( gnus still shows all the headers in articles.
What's your value for gnus-visible-headers and gnus-ignored-headers
now?
I have a setting for gnus-visible-headers and
gnus-sorted-header-list. This appears to work.
--
~/.signature is: umop ap!sdn (Frank Nobis)
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* Re: gnus doesn't obey header settings.
2002-12-03 15:37 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-12-03 16:34 ` Maciej Matysiak
2002-12-03 17:56 ` Kai Großjohann
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Maciej Matysiak @ 2002-12-03 16:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> What's your value for gnus-visible-headers and gnus-ignored-headers
> now?
`gnus-visible-headers' is a variable declared in Lisp.
-- loaded from "gnus-art"
Value: nil
Documentation:
*All headers that do not match this regexp will be hidden.
This variable can also be a list of regexp of headers to remain visible.
If this variable is non-nil, `gnus-ignored-headers' will be ignored.
`gnus-ignored-headers' is a variable declared in Lisp.
-- loaded from "gnus-art"
Value: "^Received:"
Documentation:
*All headers that start with this regexp will be hidden.
This variable can also be a list of regexps of headers to be ignored.
If `gnus-visible-headers' is non-nil, this variable will be ignored.
despite the setting, gnus shows the received headers in articles.
> I have a setting for gnus-visible-headers and gnus-sorted-header-list.
> This appears to work.
well, i must have really bad luck then.
btw., you don't set the "mail-followup-to" header, do you really want to
get a copy of reply to your mails?
m.m.
--
use gnus, not guns!
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* Re: gnus doesn't obey header settings.
2002-12-03 16:34 ` Maciej Matysiak
@ 2002-12-03 17:56 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-12-03 21:58 ` Josh Huber
2003-01-23 22:54 ` Paul Jarc
0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-12-03 17:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
Maciej Matysiak <phoner.ding@blah.pl> writes:
> kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) writes:
>
>> What's your value for gnus-visible-headers and gnus-ignored-headers
>> now?
>
> `gnus-ignored-headers' is a variable declared in Lisp.
> -- loaded from "gnus-art"
>
> Value: "^Received:"
>
> Documentation:
> *All headers that start with this regexp will be hidden.
> This variable can also be a list of regexps of headers to be ignored.
> If `gnus-visible-headers' is non-nil, this variable will be ignored.
>
> despite the setting, gnus shows the received headers in articles.
Hm. What happens when you type `t' on a message? Does that make the
headers go away? And does another `t' bring them back?
>> I have a setting for gnus-visible-headers and gnus-sorted-header-list.
>> This appears to work.
>
> well, i must have really bad luck then.
>
> btw., you don't set the "mail-followup-to" header, do you really want to
> get a copy of reply to your mails?
Eek. I'm reading this via the news group on quimby. Hm. Do I have
an MCT header? Maybe the gateway should convert betwene MCT and MFT?
--
~/.signature is: umop ap!sdn (Frank Nobis)
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* Re: gnus doesn't obey header settings.
2002-12-03 14:19 ` Maciej Matysiak
2002-12-03 15:37 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-12-03 18:04 ` Jesper Harder
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Jesper Harder @ 2002-12-03 18:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
Maciej Matysiak <phoner.ding@blah.pl> writes:
>> Don't set `gnus-show-all-headers' to t if you want some headers to be
>> hidden.
>
> done. no change :( gnus still shows all the headers in articles.
Strange. It works for me with
(setq gnus-visible-headers nil)
(setq gnus-ignored-headers ...
>> Make it a list of regexps not _one_ single regexp.
>
> like that:
>
> (setq gnus-sorted-header-list
> '(
> "^From:"
> "^To:"
> ))
Yes.
> still no effect, gnus shows the headers in chaotic way.
Well, there is a bug that makes Gnus ignore the _last_ entry in the
list, but the rest of the entries are sorted for me.
> how can i debug why gnus ignores the settings?
edebug `article-hide-headers' in gnus-art.el. See
<info://Gnus/Troubleshooting>.
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* Re: gnus doesn't obey header settings.
2002-12-03 17:56 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-12-03 21:58 ` Josh Huber
2003-01-23 22:54 ` Paul Jarc
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From: Josh Huber @ 2002-12-03 21:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> Eek. I'm reading this via the news group on quimby. Hm. Do I have
> an MCT header? Maybe the gateway should convert betwene MCT and
> MFT?
No, you don't have an MCT, and I really think that auto-generating the
MFT header is a *bad* idea! Down that path lies madness! Don't let
it turn into another Reply-To header! :)
--
Josh Huber
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* Re: gnus doesn't obey header settings.
2002-12-03 17:56 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-12-03 21:58 ` Josh Huber
@ 2003-01-23 22:54 ` Paul Jarc
2003-01-24 6:43 ` Vasily Korytov
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Paul Jarc @ 2003-01-23 22:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
I'm still catching up on some old threads...
kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) wrote:
> Eek. I'm reading this via the news group on quimby. Hm. Do I have
> an MCT header? Maybe the gateway should convert betwene MCT and MFT?
The gateway should not touch MFT. It would suffice for the gateway to
preserve MCT; mail followups (from Gnus, at least) will respect MCT.
paul
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* Re: gnus doesn't obey header settings.
2003-01-23 22:54 ` Paul Jarc
@ 2003-01-24 6:43 ` Vasily Korytov
2003-01-24 21:19 ` Paul Jarc
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Vasily Korytov @ 2003-01-24 6:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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>>>>> "PJ" == Paul Jarc writes:
PJ> I'm still catching up on some old threads...
PJ> kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Groъjohann) wrote:
>> Eek. I'm reading this via the news group on quimby. Hm. Do I have
>> an MCT header? Maybe the gateway should convert betwene MCT and MFT?
PJ> The gateway should not touch MFT. It would suffice for the gateway to
PJ> preserve MCT; mail followups (from Gnus, at least) will respect MCT.
And what will be with MFT on the news side? Will it be silently dropped?
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* Re: gnus doesn't obey header settings.
2003-01-24 6:43 ` Vasily Korytov
@ 2003-01-24 21:19 ` Paul Jarc
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Paul Jarc @ 2003-01-24 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
deskpot@myrealbox.com (Vasily Korytov) wrote:
> And what will be with MFT on the news side? Will it be silently dropped?
You're talking about mail->news? I don't think it matters much, since
news clients won't be making followups by mail. It might as well be
preserved, for the sake of minimal munging.
paul
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