Re: Removing nndoc groups?

Re: Removing nndoc groups?

[François Pinard]

Jonas Steverud <d4jonas@dtek.chalmers.se> writes:

> This might be very easy but how do I remove nndoc groups? I created a
> nndoc group for some time ago and have now removed the file. How do I
> remove the group from Gnus?

>  U       *: nndoc+/users/dtek/d94/d4jonas/Skriv.ut/news:news

> C-u G DEL/G DEL: "This backend does not support group deletion"

For one, I usually kill the group.  And later, edit it out of .newsrc.eld.

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Re: Removing nndoc groups?

[Slawek Zak]

François Pinard <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> For one, I usually kill the group.  And later, edit it out of
> .newsrc.eld.

Which is not recommended :))
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Re: Removing nndoc groups?

[François Pinard]

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> François Pinard <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> > For one, I usually kill the group.  And later, edit it out of
> > .newsrc.eld.

> Which is not recommended :))

What is the recommended way, then?

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user-mail-address

[amos+lists.ding]

User-Agent: Gnus/5.0804 (Gnus v5.8.4) XEmacs/21.1 (Bryce Canyon)
(Just checked out a copy.)

I'm using gnus-posting-styles to, among other things, set address
(user-mail-address).  I'm using smtpmail-send-it as my
send-mail-function.  When I go to send a message, I'm prompted to
enter my mail address.  Why?  Isn't the user-mail-address being
copied over to the buffer that's actually sent?

I know this has been gone over before, but it's still a bit
confusing.

Amos

Re: Removing nndoc groups?

[David S. Goldberg]

> Slawek Zak <S.Zak@altkom.com> écrit:
>> François Pinard <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>> For one, I usually kill the group.  And later, edit it out of
>>> .newsrc.eld.

>> Which is not recommended :))

I see in the info a recommendation to not delete .newsrc.eld and to
not mess with the topic topology variable.  Nothing about dealing with
any of the various group lists.

> What is the recommended way, then?

I effectively do what you do, but I don't edit .newsrc.eld.  I have
gnus-save-killed-list set to nil.  After killing the nndoc group I
just wait until I restart gnus (though that may be a long time :-) and
then it's gone for good.
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Re: Removing nndoc groups?

[François Pinard]

dsg@mitre.org (David S. Goldberg) écrit:

> >> François Pinard <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> >>> For one, I usually kill the group.  And later, edit it out of
> >>> .newsrc.eld.

> > What is the recommended way, then?

> I have gnus-save-killed-list set to nil.

Hey, hey!  Thanks a lot.  I was not aware of that variable, and the save
killed list has often been a source of trouble for me, at least when I
experiment with backends, as those have a shocking tendency to bug me
forever afterwards :-).

> I see in the info a recommendation to not delete .newsrc.eld and to
> not mess with the topic topology variable.

Yet, despite the recommendation, one might have to do it.  I got some
Mule difficulties around there.  By the way, does someone else try to use
accented characters in topics?  Sounds a pretty natural thing to do for me!

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Re: Removing nndoc groups?

[Karl EICHWALDER]

François Pinard <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

|   By the way, does someone else try to use accented characters in
|   topics?  Sounds a pretty natural thing to do for me!

;-) No, until now not; I'm using short english labels only.

Since some of my co-workers start to show interest in Gnus, and since
I'm willing to support their interest, I'm prepared to see german
umlauts in topics sooner or later :-)

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Re: Removing nndoc groups?

[Simon Josefsson]

Karl EICHWALDER <ke@gnu.franken.de> writes:

> |   By the way, does someone else try to use accented characters in
> |   topics?  Sounds a pretty natural thing to do for me!
> 
> ;-) No, until now not; I'm using short english labels only.
> 
> Since some of my co-workers start to show interest in Gnus, and since
> I'm willing to support their interest, I'm prepared to see german
> umlauts in topics sooner or later :-)

I've a topic named räksmörgås and it has worked for quite a while, I
think you'll need

(setq gnus-startup-file-coding-system 'iso-8859-1)

to get it to work.

Perhaps the default of that variable should be `mule' so that one
could have any string in topics without having to edit the variable?
It would require that Gnus checked the .newsrc.eld version number and
used 'binary for older versions and 'mule for recent.

Re: Removing nndoc groups?

[François Pinard]

Simon Josefsson <jas@pdc.kth.se> écrit:

> I've a topic named räksmörgås and it has worked for quite a while,
> I think you'll need

> (setq gnus-startup-file-coding-system 'iso-8859-1)

> to get it to work.

Thanks a great deal for this information, I would have hardly found
it myself.  I'm putting it in, and should soon see if it helps! :-)

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Re: user-mail-address

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

amos+lists.ding@utdallas.edu writes:

> I'm using gnus-posting-styles to, among other things, set address
> (user-mail-address).  I'm using smtpmail-send-it as my
> send-mail-function.  When I go to send a message, I'm prompted to
> enter my mail address.  Why?  Isn't the user-mail-address being
> copied over to the buffer that's actually sent?

It's not unlikely that smtpmail-send-it uses some other method to find 
your mail address, but I'm not familiar with that function.

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