www.gnus.org

www.gnus.org

[Andy Eskilsson]

Well now we have a www.gnus.org... are there any works on the
contents, or will we just move the http://www.ifi.uio.no/~larsi tree
there?

I believe a touchup of both contents and structure of the gnus-pages
would be welcome!

	/Andy

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Re: www.gnus.org

[Samuel Tardieu]

>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Eskilsson <flognat@fukt.hk-r.se> writes:

Andy> Well now we have a www.gnus.org... are there any works on the
Andy> contents, or will we just move the http://www.ifi.uio.no/~larsi
Andy> tree there?

Would it be possible to install some aliases for mail? Having
"sam@gnus.org" would make be very proud since I recommend Gnus to
almost any people I know :)))

  Sam
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Re: www.gnus.org

[David Lebel]

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| Would it be possible to install some aliases for mail? Having
| "sam@gnus.org" would make be very proud since I recommend Gnus to
| almost any people I know :)))

  I'm ready to offer the service of MX for the gnus community.  Mainly
  redirecting mail from gnus.org to your various real email
  addresses. 

  ...David

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Re: www.gnus.org

[Jason R. Mastaler]

David Lebel <lebel@socom.com> writes:

>   I'm ready to offer the service of MX for the gnus community.  Mainly
>   redirecting mail from gnus.org to your various real email
>   addresses. 

Thanks, but I'll be doing e-mail along with the DNS, webhosting, etc
for gnus.org.

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Re: www.gnus.org

[David Lebel]

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| Thanks, but I'll be doing e-mail along with the DNS, webhosting, etc
| for gnus.org.

  Great then!

  ...David

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Re: www.gnus.org

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Samuel Tardieu <sam@ada.eu.org> writes:

> Would it be possible to install some aliases for mail? Having
> "sam@gnus.org" would make be very proud since I recommend Gnus to
> almost any people I know :)))

I think that would be too much administration and stuff.  And there's
not really any need to do that, is there?

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Re: www.gnus.org

[Scott Blachowicz]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:

> > Would it be possible to install some aliases for mail? Having
> > "sam@gnus.org" would make be very proud since I recommend Gnus to
> > almost any people I know :)))
> 
> I think that would be too much administration and stuff.  And there's
> not really any need to do that, is there?

Maybe you'd just want it for contributors so their ChangeLog entry email
addresses could remain valid over time (theoretically) even if they change
locations.

Scott Blachowicz  Ph: 206/283-8802x240   Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div)
                                         1700 Westlake Ave N #500
scott@statsci.com                        Seattle, WA USA   98109
Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org

Re: www.gnus.org

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Scott Blachowicz <scott@apple.statsci.com> writes:

> Maybe you'd just want it for contributors so their ChangeLog entry email
> addresses could remain valid over time (theoretically) even if they change
> locations.

Hm...  Perhaps the MX records for some host (say, groupies.gnus.org :-) 
could be set to some machine where someone would like to maintain the
forwarding servive.  If we want to do this.

I'd like to keep gnus.org all *mine* *mine* *mine*!  :-)

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Re: www.gnus.org

[William M. Perry]

Andy Eskilsson writes:
>Well now we have a www.gnus.org... are there any works on the contents, or
>will we just move the http://www.ifi.uio.no/~larsi tree there?
>
>I believe a touchup of both contents and structure of the gnus-pages would
>be welcome!

  While we are on the subject, does anyone have suggestions for the .org I
should register for Emacs/W3?  w3.org is already taken - the bastards.

  I'll be happy to help around the web site any way I can.  We should throw
in some <pinhead> and <flame> tags just for fun. :)

-Bill P.

PS: _WOW_ its a gorgeous morning - sunrise jus started to hit the olympic
    mountain range and it is amazing.  I love living in seattle! :)

Re: www.gnus.org

[Kai Grossjohann]

>>>>> William M Perry writes:

  Bill>   While we are on the subject, does anyone have suggestions
  Bill> for the .org I should register for Emacs/W3?  w3.org is
  Bill> already taken - the bastards.

w3.el.org?

kai
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Re: www.gnus.org

[Per Abrahamsen]

Kai Grossjohann <grossjohann@charly.informatik.uni-dortmund.de> writes:

> w3.el.org?

el.org is taken.  I'll ask the owner of emacs.org if he wants give
away subdomains.  I want my machine to be accessible as
church.emacs.org.

Re: www.gnus.org

[Jason R. Mastaler]

Kai Grossjohann <grossjohann@charly.informatik.uni-dortmund.de> writes:

> w3.el.org?

el.org is already registered by El E-mail Service out of
Vancouver, BC.

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Re: www.gnus.org

[Per Abrahamsen]

"William M. Perry" <wmperry@aventail.com> writes:

>   While we are on the subject, does anyone have suggestions for the .org I
> should register for Emacs/W3?  w3.org is already taken - the bastards.

Yeah, and you were first...

gnet.org is also taken, but gnuscape.org is free!

Gnuscape sounds much better than gnet anyway, and if we think hard we
can surely come up with a nice recursive acronym for it.

> PS: _WOW_ its a gorgeous morning - sunrise jus started to hit the olympic
>     mountain range and it is amazing.  I love living in seattle! :)

wow.org, sunrise.org, olympic.org, mountain.org, and love.org are taken.
gorgeous.org, morning.org, and amazing.org are free.

Oh, you changed the subject.

Re: www.gnus.org

[Brent B. Powers]

Per Abrahamsen writes:
 > From: Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk>
 > To: wmperry@aventail.com
 > Subject: Re: www.gnus.org
 > Date: 25 Mar 1997 16:22:13 +0100
 > 
 > 
 > "William M. Perry" <wmperry@aventail.com> writes:
 > 
 > >   While we are on the subject, does anyone have suggestions for the .org I
 > > should register for Emacs/W3?  w3.org is already taken - the bastards.
 > 
 > Yeah, and you were first...
 > 
 > gnet.org is also taken, but gnuscape.org is free!
 > 
 > Gnuscape sounds much better than gnet anyway, and if we think hard we
 > can surely come up with a nice recursive acronym for it.

Oh, I can just see it.

^-H f w 3^-M

w3: an interactive autoloaded Lisp function.
  -- loads from "w3".
Remember, it's spelled w3, but it's pronounced "gnuzilla"


Hmmm, wasn't there a 70's song .... 


"Whoa-ho,
   they say he's got to go
Go, Go, Gnuzilla

Re: www.gnus.org

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> "Brent B. Powers" <powers@ml.com>:

> Hmmm, wasn't there a 70's song .... 

> "Whoa-ho,
>    they say he's got to go
> Go, Go, Gnuzilla

With apologies to "Blue Öyster Cult", I'm sure...

Re: www.gnus.org

[William M. Perry]

Brent B. Powers writes:
>Per Abrahamsen writes:
> > 
> > "William M. Perry" <wmperry@aventail.com> writes:
> > 
> > > While we are on the subject, does anyone have suggestions for the
> > > .org I should register for Emacs/W3?  w3.org is already taken - the
> > > bastards.
> > 
> > Yeah, and you were first...
> > 
> > gnet.org is also taken, but gnuscape.org is free!
> > 
> > Gnuscape sounds much better than gnet anyway, and if we think hard we
> > can surely come up with a nice recursive acronym for it.
>
>Oh, I can just see it.
>
>^-H f w 3^-M
>
>w3: an interactive autoloaded Lisp function.
>  -- loads from "w3".
>Remember, it's spelled w3, but it's pronounced "gnuzilla"
>
>Hmmm, wasn't there a 70's song .... 
>
>"Whoa-ho,
>   they say he's got to go
>Go, Go, Gnuzilla

  You say that like its not a good idea? :)

-bp

Re: www.gnus.org

[Jason R. Mastaler]

"William M. Perry" <wmperry@aventail.com> writes:

>   While we are on the subject, does anyone have suggestions for the .org I
> should register for Emacs/W3?  w3.org is already taken - the bastards.

How about 'ew3.org', or 'emacsw3.org', or 'emacs-w3.org' ?

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Re: www.gnus.org

[Lars Balker Rasmussen]

"William M. Perry" <wmperry@aventail.com> writes:
>   While we are on the subject, does anyone have suggestions for the .org I
> should register for Emacs/W3?  w3.org is already taken - the bastards.

Hmm, w3-beat-me-to-it-and-all-i-got-was-this-domain.org?

Or join the DNS misfits, and register w3.gnu :-)
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lbr@mjolner.dk

Re: www.gnus.org

[Daniel Neri]

"William M. Perry" <wmperry@aventail.com> writes:

>   While we are on the subject, does anyone have suggestions for the .org I
> should register for Emacs/W3?  w3.org is already taken - the bastards.

Hmmm... There's already a lynx.browser.org. I remember reading
somewhere that it was meant for other browsers to be able to get a
name under browser.org. So why don't you try to get your hands on
w3.browser.org?!

> -Bill P.

/Daniel

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Re: www.gnus.org

[Erik Selberg]

How about w3emacs.org? BTW: didn't realize you were a local too! I'm
still debating between a nice bike ride or actually going into
work. Hmm... it is spring break after all... :)

-erik
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"I get by with a little help	selberg@cs.washington.edu
 from my friends."		http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/selberg

Re: www.gnus.org

[William M. Perry]

Erik Selberg writes:
>How about w3emacs.org? BTW: didn't realize you were a local too! I'm
>still debating between a nice bike ride or actually going into
>work. Hmm... it is spring break after all... :)

  To make matters worse, my office has a wraparound deck and a view of
puget sound & the olympics.  Ahhhhhh.... productivity?  What productivity?
Too bad we are moving offices at the end of the week... grrrr.

-Bill P.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled ding discussions. :)

Re: www.gnus.org

[Jason R. Mastaler]

Andy Eskilsson <flognat@fukt.hk-r.se> writes:

> Well now we have a www.gnus.org... are there any works on the
> contents, or will we just move the http://www.ifi.uio.no/~larsi tree
> there?
> 
> I believe a touchup of both contents and structure of the gnus-pages
> would be welcome!

The website won't be up for a little while, but yes, there are works
on the contents in the works.  Of course lots of initial feedback on
content, look and structure will be quite helpful once it is up.

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www.gnus.org

[Jon Ericson]

I'm getting a "connection refused" from the Gnus webpage.  Is the
server down?

Jon
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other duty laid on him. For one year he is to be free to stay at home
and bring happiness to the wife he has married.
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Re: www.gnus.org

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Jon Ericson <Jon.Ericson@jpl.nasa.gov> writes:

> I'm getting a "connection refused" from the Gnus webpage.  Is the
> server down?

It was down, but it looks like it's up again now.

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   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

shr - support for title attribute on <a> elements?

[Adam Sjøgren]

I know that shr handles the title attribute on <img> elements (useful in
the gwene.com.xkcd group), but does shr handle the title attribute on
<a> elements?

I often use the title attribute to indicate the name of the article/page
that a link points to, when the text of the link doesn't do so directly.

I would expect the content of the title attribute to be shown in the
little "mouse over" text that pops up when I place the mouse on a link
and wait a little, but instead the URL of the link is always displayed.

That is also interesting information, of course...

Maybe, if there is a title, show "TITLE (URL)" on the little pop up
text, or perhaps show the URL in the minibuffer and the title in the pop
up?


  Best regards,

    Adam

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[PATCH] (shr-urlify): show title attribute as well as URL, if provided. (shr-tag-a): pass title to shr-urlify.

[Adam Sjøgren]

Make the mouse over pop up text of links show the title as well as the URL,
if present.

Signed-off-by: Adam Sjøgren <asjo@koldfront.dk>
---

Let me try again, this time with the email comment in the right place (I hope),
and skipping the extra variable that was just too much indentation change for
very little clarity.

Please disregard my previous attempt: <1291499077-1619-1-git-send-email-asjo@koldfront.dk>


 lisp/shr.el |    7 ++++---
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/shr.el b/lisp/shr.el
index 69973fb..5d24479 100644
--- a/lisp/shr.el
+++ b/lisp/shr.el
@@ -506,10 +506,10 @@ START, and END."
 
 (autoload 'widget-convert-button "wid-edit")
 
-(defun shr-urlify (start url)
+(defun shr-urlify (start url &optional title)
   (widget-convert-button
    'url-link start (point)
-   :help-echo url
+   :help-echo (if title (format "%s (%s)" title url) url)
    :keymap shr-map
    url)
   (put-text-property start (point) 'shr-url url))
@@ -631,10 +631,11 @@ text will be inserted at start."
 
 (defun shr-tag-a (cont)
   (let ((url (cdr (assq :href cont)))
+        (title (cdr (assq :title cont)))
 	(start (point))
 	shr-start)
     (shr-generic cont)
-    (shr-urlify (or shr-start start) url)))
+    (shr-urlify (or shr-start start) url title)))
 
 (defun shr-tag-object (cont)
   (let ((start (point))
-- 
1.7.2.3

Re: [PATCH] (shr-urlify): show title attribute as well as URL, if provided. (shr-tag-a): pass title to shr-urlify.

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Adam Sjøgren <asjo@koldfront.dk> writes:

> Let me try again, this time with the email comment in the right place
> (I hope), and skipping the extra variable that was just too much
> indentation change for very little clarity.

Thanks; applied.  (But I changed the tooltip to show the URL before the
title to avoid the situation where spammers put a misleading long URL
into the title, pushing the real URL off the screen.)

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Re: (shr-urlify): show title attribute as well as URL, if provided. (shr-tag-a): pass title to shr-urlify.

[Adam Sjøgren]

On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 23:25:58 +0100, Lars wrote:

> Thanks; applied.  (But I changed the tooltip to show the URL before the
> title to avoid the situation where spammers put a misleading long URL
> into the title, pushing the real URL off the screen.)

Cool! (Ok; super.)

Just to annoy you: there is a slight charset snafu on http://gnus.org/ -
the page is in latin1, but my name is utf-8 encoded, and look funny.


  Best regards,

    Adam

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                                                         asjo@koldfront.dk

www.gnus.org (Was: (shr-urlify): show title attribute as well as URL, if provided. (shr-tag-a): pass title to shr-urlify.)

[Adam Sjøgren]

On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 23:55:42 +0100, Adam wrote:

> Just to annoy you: there is a slight charset snafu on http://gnus.org/ -
> the page is in latin1, but my name is utf-8 encoded, and look funny.

While I am at it: perhaps the links to the threads in the Recent Gnus
Threads section should have a target attribute pointing as, say, _top?

(Try clicking one - the gmane interface opens inside the iframe...)


  Best regards,

    Adam

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 "We get our thursdays from a banana."                        Adam Sjøgren
                                                         asjo@koldfront.dk

Re: www.gnus.org

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> While I am at it: perhaps the links to the threads in the Recent Gnus
> Threads section should have a target attribute pointing as, say, _top?

Yup.  Fixed.

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen