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From: amu@MIT.EDU (Aaron M. Ucko)
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Gnus v5.6.24 is released
Date: 14 Jul 1998 20:02:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <udlsok4ugk4.fsf@x15-cruise-basselope.mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Stainless Steel Rat's message of "14 Jul 1998 15:17:42 -0400"

Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:

> Aaron M Ucko writes:
> 
> > Um, pretty much all the Sun keyboards I've seen have been Type 4 or 5
> > keyboards hence had both meta (diamond) and alt keys.
> 
> Take a good look at a Sun 3 type keyboard sometime.

Easier said than done these days.

> > OTOH, IBM and SGI keyboards all seem to use the PC101 layout,
> 
> None of the dozen or so SGIs or RS/6000s I maintain have "Windows" keys.

Hence PC101 rather than PC104.

> CDE is not a window manager.  Motif (mwm) is a window manager that uses
> ALT.  So do many FVWM configurations.  So do many of the variety of other
> "twm" window managers.  Enlightenment does it; so does AfterStep.

Yes, but the original question was whether M-tab is safe, which is a
function of WM configuration.  CDE-like configurations typically bind
M-tab; many others don't.  At any rate, no WM I've seen messes with
keycode -> keysym translations, which are the X server's
responsibility; I think you're just confused because many WMs pretend
Mod1 is always Meta, even though it's sometimes Alt when they are
distinct.

-- 
Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC <amu@mit.edu> (finger amu@monk.mit.edu)


  parent reply	other threads:[~1998-07-15  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-07-11  1:06 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-07-11 21:17 ` Berry Kercheval
1998-07-11 21:27   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-07-11 22:55     ` Bruce Stephens
1998-07-11 23:05       ` SL Baur
1998-07-12 17:29         ` Dave Love
1998-07-12 17:36           ` Hrvoje Niksic
     [not found]             ` <x77m1ifwei.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1998-07-13  2:31               ` Bud Rogers
1998-07-14 19:46               ` Dave Love
1998-07-14 19:33             ` Dave Love
1998-07-15 16:32               ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-07-12 18:40           ` Dave Love
1998-07-13  9:03       ` Mats Lofdahl
1998-07-13 12:10         ` Vladimir Volovich
     [not found]           ` <x7emvpbbov.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1998-07-14  1:06             ` Aaron M. Ucko
     [not found]               ` <x7u34kgsam.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1998-07-15  0:02                 ` Aaron M. Ucko [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <x73ec37s53.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1998-07-15  3:11                     ` Alan Shutko
     [not found]                       ` <x77m1fj7t2.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1998-07-15 19:02                         ` Alan Shutko
     [not found]                           ` <x7btqqvlru.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1998-07-15 23:01                             ` Alan Shutko
     [not found]                               ` <x7u34i8tcb.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1998-07-16 10:58                                 ` Robert Bihlmeyer
1998-07-14  9:35           ` Mats Lofdahl
1998-07-14 14:20             ` Aaron M. Ucko
1998-07-14 18:05             ` SL Baur
1998-07-16  6:29               ` Yair Friedman
1998-07-13 15:18         ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-07-14 10:05         ` Kai Grossjohann
1998-07-14 11:36           ` François Pinard
1998-07-14 12:00             ` Kai Grossjohann
1998-07-23 13:09 ` Jochen_Hayek
1998-07-23 13:48 ` Jochen_Hayek
1998-07-23 14:02   ` Kai Grossjohann
1998-07-23 14:21     ` Jochen_Hayek

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