What is a "pseudo article"?

What is a "pseudo article"?

[Nevin Kapur]

When I hit ^ in the Summary buffer I get the message

"This is a pseudo-article."

This is happening in my (nnimap) mail groups and news groups.  It
seems to be a recent phenomenon as I use the ^ function all the time
and this didn't happen earlier.

Any ideas?

-- 
Nevin

Re: What is a "pseudo article"?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Nevin Kapur <nevin@jhu.edu> writes:

> When I hit ^ in the Summary buffer I get the message
>
> "This is a pseudo-article."

A pseudo-article is usually something that's not an article at all,
but is a line that's displayed in the summary buffer.  I think the
only thing that inserts pseudo-articles is the gnus-uu stuff.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Problem fetching parent articles with ^

[Mark Thomas]

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When in the *Summary* buffer, I have problems when I try to fetch
parent articles with ^.

For example, I'm reading gmane.emacs.gnus.general from news.gmane.org;
the first article that I see in the
  Unable to customize group in very recent Oort
thread is <4n65ss2347.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu>

When I press ^ to get that message's parent, I get a message about the
article being a pseudo-article.  When I look in the " *nntpd*" buffer,
I see the headers of <86wulirxo7.fsf@asfast.com>, the requested parent
article.

I have set debug-on-error to t to generate the attached back trace; I
also have included the " *nntpd*" buffer and relevant sections from my
~/.gnus.

One odd thing is that it doesn't always happen.  If I select
<uheccdavq.fsf@xpediantsolutions.com> from the
  nnoo bug - unable to open secondary nntp server when offline
thread and press ^, I see <m3el7gsy8k.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org>.
However, if I press ^ on that article I get the pseudo-article error,
and " *nntpd*" contains the headers of the parent,
<uwul9vgg0.fsf@xpediantsolutions.com>.

Thanks,

-Mark


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Signaling: (error "This is a pseudo-article")
  signal(error ("This is a pseudo-article"))
  cerror("This is a pseudo-article")
  apply(cerror "This is a pseudo-article" nil)
  error("This is a pseudo-article")
  (and (not pseudo) (gnus-summary-article-pseudo-p article) (error "This is a pseudo-article"))
  (let ((article ...) (all-headers ...) gnus-summary-display-article-function) (and (not pseudo) (gnus-summary-article-pseudo-p article) (error "This is a pseudo-article")) (save-excursion (set-buffer gnus-summary-buffer) (if ... ... ...)))
  gnus-summary-select-article(nil nil nil 48820)
  (progn (gnus-summary-select-article nil nil nil number) (throw (quote found) t))
  (if (setq number (gnus-summary-insert-subject message-id)) (progn (gnus-summary-select-article nil nil nil number) (throw ... t)))
  (when (setq number (gnus-summary-insert-subject message-id)) (gnus-summary-select-article nil nil nil number) (throw (quote found) t))
  (while --dolist-temp--12665 (setq gnus-override-method (car --dolist-temp--12665)) (gnus-check-server gnus-override-method) (when (setq number ...) (gnus-summary-select-article nil nil nil number) (throw ... t)) (setq --dolist-temp--12665 (cdr --dolist-temp--12665)))
  (let ((--dolist-temp--12665 ...) gnus-override-method) (while --dolist-temp--12665 (setq gnus-override-method ...) (gnus-check-server gnus-override-method) (when ... ... ...) (setq --dolist-temp--12665 ...)) nil)
  (catch (quote --cl-block-nil--) (let (... gnus-override-method) (while --dolist-temp--12665 ... ... ... ...) nil))
  (cl-block-wrapper (catch (quote --cl-block-nil--) (let ... ... nil)))
  (block nil (let (... gnus-override-method) (while --dolist-temp--12665 ... ... ... ...) nil))
  (dolist (gnus-override-method (gnus-refer-article-methods)) (gnus-check-server gnus-override-method) (when (setq number ...) (gnus-summary-select-article nil nil nil number) (throw ... t)))
  (catch (quote found) (dolist (gnus-override-method ...) (gnus-check-server gnus-override-method) (when ... ... ...)) (gnus-message 3 "Couldn't fetch article %s" message-id))
  (cond ((and header ...) (prog1 ... ...)) (t (catch ... ... ...)))
  (let* ((header ...) (sparse ...) number) (cond (... ...) (t ...)))
  (progn (unless (string-match "^<" message-id) (setq message-id ...)) (unless (string-match ">$" message-id) (setq message-id ...)) (let* (... ... number) (cond ... ...)))
  (if (and (stringp message-id) (not ...)) (progn (unless ... ...) (unless ... ...) (let* ... ...)))
  (when (and (stringp message-id) (not ...)) (unless (string-match "^<" message-id) (setq message-id ...)) (unless (string-match ">$" message-id) (setq message-id ...)) (let* (... ... number) (cond ... ...)))
  gnus-summary-refer-article("<86wulirxo7.fsf@asfast.com>")
  (if (gnus-summary-refer-article (gnus-parent-id ref skip)) nil (gnus-message 1 "Couldn't find parent"))
  (unless (gnus-summary-refer-article (gnus-parent-id ref skip)) (gnus-message 1 "Couldn't find parent"))
  (if (and ref (not ...)) (unless (gnus-summary-refer-article ...) (gnus-message 1 "Couldn't find parent")) (gnus-message 1 "No references in article %d" (gnus-summary-article-number)) (setq error t))
  (while (and (> n 0) (not error)) (setq header (gnus-summary-article-header)) (if (and ... ...) (save-excursion ... ... ... ...) (setq ref ...)) (if (and ref ...) (unless ... ...) (gnus-message 1 "No references in article %d" ...) (setq error t)) (decf n))
  (let ((skip 1) error header ref) (when (not ...) (setq skip ... n 1)) (while (and ... ...) (setq header ...) (if ... ... ...) (if ... ... ... ...) (decf n)) (gnus-summary-position-point) n)
  gnus-summary-refer-parent-article(1)
  call-interactively(gnus-summary-refer-parent-article)

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Re: Problem fetching parent articles with ^

[Nevin Kapur]

Mark Thomas <swoon@bellatlantic.net> writes:

> When in the *Summary* buffer, I have problems when I try to fetch
> parent articles with ^.

Do you have gnus-build-sparse-threads set to anything other than nil?
I faced the same problem as you till I set it to nil.

-Nevin

Re: Problem fetching parent articles with ^

[Mark Thomas]

On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, nevin@jhu.edu wrote:

> Mark Thomas <swoon@bellatlantic.net> writes:
> 
>> When in the *Summary* buffer, I have problems when I try to fetch
>> parent articles with ^.
> 
> Do you have gnus-build-sparse-threads set to anything other than
> nil?  I faced the same problem as you till I set it to nil.

It's currently set to 'more.

Let's see...gnus-summary-exit-no-update...set the variable to
nil...reenter group...find a reply...^ ^ ^ ^ and up the tree we go.

Cool.  Thanks for the work-around!

-Mark