Gnus v5.4.40 is released

Gnus v5.4.40 is released

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Bug fixes.

As some observant people may have noticed, there is now a gnus.org
domain.  All Gnus-related mail should now be sent to this address --
"ding@gnus.org" instead of "ding@ifi.uio.no", and "bugs@gnus.org"
instead of "gnus-bug@ifi.uio.no".

Also check out the new Web site: <URL:http://www.gnus.org/>.

Get it from <URL:http://www.gnus.org/gnus.tar.gz> or 
"ftp.gnus.org:/pub/emacs/gnus/".  The patch is available as
<URL:http://www.gnus.org/patches/gnus-5.4.39-5.4.40.diff.gz>

ChangeLog since last release:

Wed Apr  2 14:12:45 1997  Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen  <larsi@menja.ifi.uio.no>

	* gnus.el: Gnus v5.4.40 is released.

Wed Apr  2 13:17:16 1997  Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen  <larsi@ifi.uio.no>

	* gnus-start.el (gnus-check-bogus-newsgroups): Supply a help
	param. 
	
	* message.el (message-bounce): Remove the right portion of
	"simple" bounces.

	* gnus-art.el (gnus-read-save-file-name): Would bug out when
	saving multiple articles.

	* gnus-sum.el (gnus-summary-update-article-line): Insert the
	correct subject.

Tue Apr  1 11:21:48 1997  Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen  <larsi@ifi.uio.no>

	* gnus-score.el (gnus-score-find-hierarchical): Translate file
	chars. 

	* gnus-topic.el (gnus-topic-goto-missing-topic): Bugola.
	(gnus-topic-forward-topic): New function.
	(gnus-topic-goto-missing-topic): Use it.

	* nnmh.el (nnmh-active-number): Make sure the directory exist.
	(nnmh-request-accept-article): Bizarre problem.

	* gnus-topic.el (gnus-topic-goto-missing-group): Don't double
	topics. 



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Re: Gnus v5.4.40 is released

[Stainless Steel Rat]

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>>>>> "tGBGnB" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <lmi@gnus.org> writes:

tGBGnB> Bug fixes.

Here's one that is probably a bug... and I guess nobody has brought it up,
but sometimes when I catch up a group the corresponding summary buffer is
not updated.  So, when I quit Gnus I get the "update summary buffer" query.
This started around Gnus 5.4.late-teens, IIRC.

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Re: Gnus v5.4.40 is released

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:

> Here's one that is probably a bug... and I guess nobody has brought it up,
> but sometimes when I catch up a group the corresponding summary buffer is
> not updated.  So, when I quit Gnus I get the "update summary buffer" query.

The `c' command in the summary buffer doesn't update the summary
buffer?  That's kinda odd.

Or do you mean the `c' command in the group buffer?  That command has
never done anything to the summary buffer.

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Re: Gnus v5.4.40 is released

[Randal Schwartz]

>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

Lars> Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:
>> Here's one that is probably a bug... and I guess nobody has brought it up,
>> but sometimes when I catch up a group the corresponding summary buffer is
>> not updated.  So, when I quit Gnus I get the "update summary buffer" query.

Lars> The `c' command in the summary buffer doesn't update the summary
Lars> buffer?  That's kinda odd.

I have noticed an intermittment error along those lines (perhaps).
Somewhere in the last 20 versions or so, I see in the summary perhaps
15 messages in misc.tofu, so I enter the group and my scorefile
expunges a bunch of stuff (apparently it was all from that swedish
chef again who can't cook tofu worth beans!), and then I exit, but
there's still *15* messages in the summary buffer!  The 15 messages
don't go away until I catchup in the summary buffer.

When that happens again, what kind of report do you want?

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Re: Gnus v5.4.40 is released

[Stainless Steel Rat]

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>>>>> "tGBGnB" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

tGBGnB> The `c' command in the summary buffer doesn't update the summary
tGBGnB> buffer?  That's kinda odd.

That is what appears to be happening... or at least Gnus thinks that the
summary buffer has not been updated.  This only happens with the last group
of a set, and only with nnml groups (no problems with nntp groups).

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Re: Gnus v5.4.40 is released

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Randal Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> writes:

> I have noticed an intermittment error along those lines (perhaps).
> Somewhere in the last 20 versions or so, I see in the summary perhaps
> 15 messages in misc.tofu, so I enter the group and my scorefile
> expunges a bunch of stuff (apparently it was all from that swedish
> chef again who can't cook tofu worth beans!), and then I exit, but
> there's still *15* messages in the summary buffer!  The 15 messages
> don't go away until I catchup in the summary buffer.

Uhm...  If you mean "group buffer" when you say "summary buffer" :-) I
this sounds like you have an `expunge' score file rule without a
`mark' score file rule.  So the articles aren't shown, but they aren't
marked as read either, which would lead to this kind of behavior.

Is that the case?

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Re: Gnus v5.4.40 is released

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:

> That is what appears to be happening... or at least Gnus thinks that the
> summary buffer has not been updated.  This only happens with the last group
> of a set, and only with nnml groups (no problems with nntp groups).

Do you have `gnus-kill-summary-on-exit' set to nil, by any chance?

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Re: Gnus v5.4.40 is released

[Stainless Steel Rat]

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>>>>> "tGBGnB" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

tGBGnB> Do you have `gnus-kill-summary-on-exit' set to nil, by any chance?

gnus-kill-summary-on-exit's value is t

Documentation:
*If non-nil, kill the summary buffer when you exit from it.
If nil, the summary will become a "*Dead Summary*" buffer, and
it will be killed sometime later.

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Re: Gnus v5.4.40 is released

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:

> tGBGnB> Do you have `gnus-kill-summary-on-exit' set to nil, by any chance?
> 
> gnus-kill-summary-on-exit's value is t

One grasped straw broken.  :-)

Uhm, I have absolutely no idea what could be causing the behavior
you're seeing.  `c' in the summary buffer should kill the buffer...

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Re: Gnus v5.4.40 is released

[Stainless Steel Rat]

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>>>>> "tGBGnB" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

tGBGnB> Uhm, I have absolutely no idea what could be causing the behavior
tGBGnB> you're seeing.  `c' in the summary buffer should kill the buffer...

And at least in 5.4.40 it does... and since I installed 5.4.40 I have not
seen the problem.

Weird how bugs sometimes fix themselves. :)

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Re: Gnus v5.4.40 is released

[Randal Schwartz]

>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

Lars> Uhm...  If you mean "group buffer" when you say "summary buffer" :-)

uh, yeah.

Lars>  I
Lars> this sounds like you have an `expunge' score file rule without a
Lars> `mark' score file rule.  So the articles aren't shown, but they aren't
Lars> marked as read either, which would lead to this kind of behavior.

Lars> Is that the case?

I don't think so.  I have "all.SCORE" with:

	(("followup"
	  ("merlyn@stonehenge.com" nil nil s))
	 (mark-and-expunge -500))

and then in various places of interest I have rules like

	(("xref"
	  (" .* .* .* .* .* " -10000 nil r)))

and I just checked my *.SCORE files, and I never have "expunge" except
as "mark-and-expunge".

Next idea? :-)

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Re: Gnus v5.4.40 is released

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Randal Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> writes:

> and I just checked my *.SCORE files, and I never have "expunge" except
> as "mark-and-expunge".
> 
> Next idea? :-)

I'm afraid I can't think of anything.  If you enter the group with
`C-u 10 RET', are all the 10 articles shown?  Are they scored low?  

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