Quassia Gnus v0.16 is released

Quassia Gnus v0.16 is released

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Bug fixes and some new stuff.

Get it from <URL:http://www.gnus.org/qgnus.tar.gz> or 
"/ftp@ftp.gnus.org:/pub/emacs/gnus/".  The patch is available as
<URL:http://www.gnus.org/patches/qgnus-0.15-0.16.diff.gz>.

ChangeLog since last release:

Tue Nov 25 19:03:38 1997  Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen  <larsi@menja.ifi.uio.no>

	* gnus.el: Quassia Gnus v0.16 is released.

Tue Nov 25 16:05:01 1997  Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen  <larsi@ifi.uio.no>

	* gnus-sum.el (gnus-read-header): Remove thread entry before
	rebuilding. 

	* gnus-cite.el (gnus-cite-add-face): Keep track of all overlays.

	* gnus-art.el (article-update-date-lapsed): New function.
	(gnus-start-date-timer): New command.
	(article-date-ut): Put the face in the right place.
	(article-date-ut): Would move around.

	* gnus-group.el (gnus-group-read-ephemeral-group): Accept server
	names. 

	* gnus-srvr.el (gnus-browse-foreign-server): Use proper server
	names. 

	* gnus.el (gnus-group-prefixed-name): Give the right result for
	native groups.

	* nnheader.el (nnheader-directory-files): New function.

	* nnmh.el (nnmh-request-list-1): Reversed check.

	* nnfolder.el (nnfolder-delete-mail): Would skip backwards one
	line too much.

Tue Nov 25 14:44:02 1997  SeokChan LEE  <chan@xfer.kren.nm.kr>

	* message.el (message-ignored-supersedes-headers): Typo.



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  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Quassia Gnus v0.16 is released

[Dan Christensen]

Has the updating of summary lines in v0.16 broken?  When I hit `E'
with point on an article, the article is marked as expirable but
the summary line remains unchanged.  Same with `d' to mark an
article as read.  But strangely `!' does update the summary line
correctly.

Dan

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Dan Christensen
jdc@math.jhu.edu

Re: Quassia Gnus v0.16 is released

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

jdc@chow.mat.jhu.edu (Dan Christensen) writes:

> Has the updating of summary lines in v0.16 broken?  When I hit `E'
> with point on an article, the article is marked as expirable but
> the summary line remains unchanged.

So no "E" mark is set on the summary line?

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Quassia Gnus v0.16 is released

[Dan Christensen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> jdc@chow.mat.jhu.edu (Dan Christensen) writes:
> 
> > Has the updating of summary lines in v0.16 broken?  When I hit `E'
> > with point on an article, the article is marked as expirable but
> > the summary line remains unchanged.
> 
> So no "E" mark is set on the summary line?

That's right.  Internally the article is marked as expirable, but I
see no sign of this until I quit the summary buffer and reenter.  
Even in auto-expire groups this happens, so it is very disconcerting.
The same sort of thing happens if I delete an article:  no G appears,
but if I try to select it I am (rightly) unable to.  Is this happening
to anyone else?

Dan

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Dan Christensen
jdc@math.jhu.edu

Re: Quassia Gnus v0.16 is released

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

jdc@chow.mat.jhu.edu (Dan Christensen) writes:

> That's right.  Internally the article is marked as expirable, but I
> see no sign of this until I quit the summary buffer and reenter.  
> Even in auto-expire groups this happens, so it is very disconcerting.
> The same sort of thing happens if I delete an article:  no G appears,
> but if I try to select it I am (rightly) unable to.  Is this happening
> to anyone else?

I made some changes in this area to make it impossible to mark
articles with negative article numbers, but I'm unable to get it to
not mark regular articles...

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Quassia Gnus v0.16 is released

[Dan Christensen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> jdc@chow.mat.jhu.edu (Dan Christensen) writes:
> 
> > That's right.  Internally the article is marked as expirable, but I
> > see no sign of this until I quit the summary buffer and reenter.  
> 
> I made some changes in this area to make it impossible to mark
> articles with negative article numbers, but I'm unable to get it to
> not mark regular articles...

One further clue:  it happens in nnfolder groups, but not in nntp
groups.  I don't have any other groups handy to test it on.  Any
ideas where I could look to fix this?

Quassia Gnus v0.17; nntp 5.0; nnmh 1.0; nndraft 1.0; nnfolder 1.0

Dan

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Dan Christensen
jdc@math.jhu.edu

Re: Quassia Gnus v0.16 is released

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

jdc@chow.mat.jhu.edu (Dan Christensen) writes:

> > I made some changes in this area to make it impossible to mark
> > articles with negative article numbers, but I'm unable to get it to
> > not mark regular articles...
> 
> One further clue:  it happens in nnfolder groups, but not in nntp
> groups.  I don't have any other groups handy to test it on.  Any
> ideas where I could look to fix this?

Perhaps it has something to do with sparse articles or something.  Try
starting Emacs with -q and see if the problem goes away.  If so, try
adding in your variable settings until you find one that makes Gnus
misbehave in this manner.

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Quassia Gnus v0.16 is released

[Dan Christensen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> jdc@chow.mat.jhu.edu (Dan Christensen) writes:
> 
> > One further clue:  it happens in nnfolder groups, but not in nntp
> > groups.  I don't have any other groups handy to test it on.  Any
> > ideas where I could look to fix this?
> 
> Perhaps it has something to do with sparse articles or something.  Try
> starting Emacs with -q and see if the problem goes away.  If so, try
> adding in your variable settings until you find one that makes Gnus
> misbehave in this manner.

Extensive experimentation has revealed that the problem with unmarkable
messages occurs if gnus-use-cache is set to nil and not if gnus-use-cache
is set to 'passive.  It happens in both nnfolder and nntp groups.
(In the parameters to a topic containing nnfolder groups I set
gnus-use-cache to nil, so that's why I thought it was specific to
nnfolder groups.)

Here's a trimmed .gnus for which the problem occurs:

(setq gnus-nntp-server nil
      gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.jhu.edu")
      gnus-directory "~/Gnus"
      gnus-use-long-file-name t
      gnus-save-newsrc-file nil
      gnus-save-killed-list nil
      gnus-check-new-newsgroups nil
      gnus-check-bogus-newsgroups nil
      gnus-read-active-file 'some
      gnus-use-scoring nil
      gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnfolder ""))
      nnmail-spool-file nil
      nnfolder-directory "~/Gnus/Mail"
      nnfolder-active-file "~/Gnus/Mail/active" 
      nnmail-use-long-file-names t
)

(setq gnus-use-cache nil)

Dan

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Dan Christensen
jdc@math.jhu.edu

Re: Quassia Gnus v0.16 is released

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

jdc@chow.mat.jhu.edu (Dan Christensen) writes:

> Extensive experimentation has revealed that the problem with unmarkable
> messages occurs if gnus-use-cache is set to nil and not if gnus-use-cache
> is set to 'passive.  It happens in both nnfolder and nntp groups.

What kinds of articles is this happening with?  All, or just some?

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Quassia Gnus v0.16 is released

[Dan Christensen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> jdc@chow.mat.jhu.edu (Dan Christensen) writes:
> 
> > Extensive experimentation has revealed that the problem with unmarkable
> > messages occurs if gnus-use-cache is set to nil and not if gnus-use-cache
> > is set to 'passive.  It happens in both nnfolder and nntp groups.
> 
> What kinds of articles is this happening with?  All, or just some?

Every article I've tried it with.  ! shows up and M-u clears marks,
but hitting `d' and `E' make no changes to the appearance of the
summary buffer.  They do affect the future treatment of the article,
however.

Dan

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