* subscribe to thread or topic
@ 2019-04-17 23:55 Emanuel Berg
2019-04-18 12:49 ` Dave Marquardt
2019-04-25 6:18 ` Tassilo Horn
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg @ 2019-04-17 23:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
In some high traffic groups it can be the
situation that you ask a question but the next
day you have 100+ new posts you don't care
about, and 2 answers, the next day 100+ posts
you don't care about and 0 answers, the day
after that 100+ posts you don't care about and
1 answer, etc.
And you never now when to
`gnus-group-unsubscribe-current-group' and drop
the whole matter as even a week after, there
can be an answer to your question. (Unless you
get a good answer, of course.)
So my question is, naturally, can I tell Gnus
to give the thread and/or subject special
treatment, so that it (Gnus) will automatically
bring it to your attention whenever there, and
if not be all quiet about it?
I know about scoring and how to use it
technically, but, if that is the answer, please
provide an example.
Will plain up-scoring really help as you must
wade thru the material anyway?
Or is there a shortcut to got to the high
score article?
--
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http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
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* Re: subscribe to thread or topic
2019-04-17 23:55 subscribe to thread or topic Emanuel Berg
@ 2019-04-18 12:49 ` Dave Marquardt
2019-04-25 6:18 ` Tassilo Horn
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Dave Marquardt @ 2019-04-18 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Scoring should work here. You might also need to tell Gnus to sort the
articles in your *Summary* buffer by score.
-----------------------
On Thu, Apr 18 2019, Emanuel Berg wrote:
In some high traffic groups it can be the
situation that you ask a question but the next
day you have 100+ new posts you don't care
about, and 2 answers, the next day 100+ posts
you don't care about and 0 answers, the day
after that 100+ posts you don't care about and
1 answer, etc.
And you never now when to
`gnus-group-unsubscribe-current-group' and drop
the whole matter as even a week after, there
can be an answer to your question. (Unless you
get a good answer, of course.)
So my question is, naturally, can I tell Gnus
to give the thread and/or subject special
treatment, so that it (Gnus) will automatically
bring it to your attention whenever there, and
if not be all quiet about it?
I know about scoring and how to use it
technically, but, if that is the answer, please
provide an example.
Will plain up-scoring really help as you must
wade thru the material anyway?
Or is there a shortcut to got to the high
score article?
--
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
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* Re: subscribe to thread or topic
2019-04-17 23:55 subscribe to thread or topic Emanuel Berg
2019-04-18 12:49 ` Dave Marquardt
@ 2019-04-25 6:18 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-04-25 7:00 ` Emanuel Berg
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Tassilo Horn @ 2019-04-25 6:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> writes:
> I know about scoring and how to use it
> technically, but, if that is the answer, please
> provide an example.
It is the answer!
;; Sort threads by total score, then by date of most recent article,
;; then by number.
(setq gnus-thread-sort-functions '(gnus-thread-sort-by-number
gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date
gnus-thread-sort-by-total-score))
;; Score up followup articles
(add-hook 'message-sent-hook #'gnus-score-followup-article)
I also use adaptive scoring so that threads get their scores adapted
depending on if I've read messages from them. If you want, you can
really get crazy with scoring.
> Will plain up-scoring really help as you must
> wade thru the material anyway?
> Or is there a shortcut to got to the high
> score article?
If you sort by score, you'll have the important stuff on top.
Bye,
Tassilo
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* Re: subscribe to thread or topic
2019-04-25 6:18 ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2019-04-25 7:00 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-04-25 9:16 ` Eric S Fraga
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg @ 2019-04-25 7:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Tassilo Horn wrote:
>> I know about scoring and how to use it
>> technically, but, if that is the answer,
>> please provide an example.
>
> It is the answer!
>
> ;; Sort threads by total score [...]
Thanks man, message saved, hope to try all
of this!
> If you want, you can really get crazy
> with scoring.
OK, only that won't work on me, unless you also
have some Elisp to make me sane first?
--
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
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* Re: subscribe to thread or topic
2019-04-25 7:00 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2019-04-25 9:16 ` Eric S Fraga
2019-04-25 22:41 ` Emanuel Berg
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2019-04-25 9:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Thursday, 25 Apr 2019 at 09:00, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Tassilo Horn wrote:
>> If you want, you can really get crazy
>> with scoring.
>
> OK, only that won't work on me, unless you also
> have some Elisp to make me sane first?
Most of the scoring customizations are done through gnus variables. I
use scoring (both manual ad adaptive) a lot and have no specific elisp
code other than setq...
--
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.2.2 on Debian 9.8
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* Re: subscribe to thread or topic
2019-04-25 9:16 ` Eric S Fraga
@ 2019-04-25 22:41 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-04-26 5:42 ` Eric S Fraga
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg @ 2019-04-25 22:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Eric S Fraga wrote:
>>> If you want, you can really get crazy
>>> with scoring.
>>
>> OK, only that won't work on me, unless you
>> also have some Elisp to make me sane first?
>
> Most of the scoring customizations are done
> through gnus variables. I use scoring (both
> manual ad adaptive) a lot and have no
> specific elisp code other than setq...
... :)
--
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
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* Re: subscribe to thread or topic
2019-04-25 22:41 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2019-04-26 5:42 ` Eric S Fraga
2019-04-26 6:32 ` Emanuel Berg
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2019-04-26 5:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Friday, 26 Apr 2019 at 00:41, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Eric S Fraga wrote:
>
>>>> If you want, you can really get crazy
>>>> with scoring.
>>>
>>> OK, only that won't work on me, unless you
>>> also have some Elisp to make me sane first?
>>
>> Most of the scoring customizations are done
>> through gnus variables. I use scoring (both
>> manual ad adaptive) a lot and have no
>> specific elisp code other than setq...
>
> ... :)
Okay:
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(setq gnus-default-adaptive-score-alist
'(;(gnus-kill-file-mark)
;;(gnus-unread-mark)
;; (gnus-read-mark (from 5) (subject 30))
(gnus-replied-mark (from 50) (subject 10))
(gnus-read-mark (from 30) (subject 10))
(gnus-cached-mark (from 30) (subject 10))
(gnus-forwarded-mark (from 10) (subject 5))
(gnus-saved-mark (from 10) (subject 5))
(gnus-expirable-mark (from -5) (subject -10))
(gnus-catchup-mark (from -5) (subject -30))
(gnus-killed-mark (subject -100))
(gnus-del-mark (from -10) (subject -50)))
gnus-default-adaptive-word-score-alist '((42 . 3) ;cached
(65 . 2) ;replied
(70 . 1) ;forwarded
(82 . 1) ;read
(67 . -1) ;catchup
(69 . -1) ;expired
(75 . -3) ;killed
(114 . -3)) ;deleted
gnus-thread-sort-functions '(gnus-thread-sort-by-date gnus-thread-sort-by-total-score)
gnus-use-adaptive-scoring '(word line)
)
#+end_src
although default settings for all of the above are reasonable.
--
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.2.3 on Debian buster/sid
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* Re: subscribe to thread or topic
2019-04-26 5:42 ` Eric S Fraga
@ 2019-04-26 6:32 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-04-26 16:01 ` Eric S Fraga
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg @ 2019-04-26 6:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Eric S Fraga wrote:
>>>> OK, only that won't work on me, unless you
>>>> also have some Elisp to make me
>>>> sane first?
>>>
>>> Most of the scoring customizations are done
>>> through gnus variables. I use scoring (both
>>> manual ad adaptive) a lot and have no
>>> specific elisp code other than setq...
>>
>> ... :)
>
> Okay:
>
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp (setq
> gnus-default-adaptive-score-alist
> '(;(gnus-kill-file-mark) ;;(gnus-unread-mark)
> ;; (gnus-read-mark (from 5) (subject 30))
> (gnus-replied-mark (from 50) (subject 10))
> (gnus-read-mark (from 30) (subject 10))
> (gnus-cached-mark (from 30) (subject 10))
> (gnus-forwarded-mark (from 10) (subject 5))
> (gnus-saved-mark (from 10) (subject 5))
> (gnus-expirable-mark (from -5) (subject -10))
> (gnus-catchup-mark (from -5) (subject -30))
> (gnus-killed-mark (subject -100))
> (gnus-del-mark (from -10) (subject -50)))
> gnus-default-adaptive-word-score-alist '((42 .
> 3) ;cached (65 . 2) ;replied (70 . 1)
> ;forwarded (82 . 1) ;read (67 . -1) ;catchup
> (69 . -1) ;expired (75 . -3) ;killed (114 .
> -3)) ;deleted gnus-thread-sort-functions
> '(gnus-thread-sort-by-date
> gnus-thread-sort-by-total-score)
> gnus-use-adaptive-scoring '(word line) )
> #+end_src
>
> although default settings for all of the
> above are reasonable.
No, I meant that was a joke, some Elisp to make
me sane, well, still thanks for the yank, I'll
study it. I'm not sure what adaptive scoring
is, my scoring thus far sure has been
100% static, just downgrading completely out of
the picture the people who are the most
annoying, spamming, and/or provoking, and they
have been less than 10 in as many years of
Gmane/Useneting. I take it it (adaptive
scoring) is described in detail in the
Gnus manual.
--
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