* nnmaildir, expiry problem
@ 2002-02-20 21:54 Sean Rima
2002-02-21 17:26 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Sean Rima @ 2002-02-20 21:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I am not sure if I am doing something wrong, but I have use nnmaildir as
Maildrop filters my mail prior to gnus getting it's hands on it.
I get a couple of large mailing lists in and I have noticed that even
though I have set a group expiry for them:
(setq nnmail-expiry-wait-function
(lambda (group)
(cond ((string= group "mail.private")
31)
((string= group "suse")
1)
((string= group "cicq")
1)
....
That when gnus leaves the group, nothing gets expired. SOme of the mail
is almost a week old.
What else do I need to do or can you not expire mail whilst using
nnmaildir.
Sean
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* Re: nnmaildir, expiry problem
2002-02-20 21:54 nnmaildir, expiry problem Sean Rima
2002-02-21 17:26 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-02-21 17:26 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-02-21 18:12 ` Paul Jarc
2002-02-21 18:12 ` Paul Jarc
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-02-21 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> writes:
> (cond ((string= group "mail.private")
Are you sure the group name is "mail.private" and not, say,
"nnmaildir:mail.private"? I think you are using the right group
name, but I'm not sure.
(A simple invocation of message in that function should tell the
story. Or M-x debug-on-entry RET.)
kai
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* Re: nnmaildir, expiry problem
2002-02-20 21:54 nnmaildir, expiry problem Sean Rima
@ 2002-02-21 17:26 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-02-21 20:24 ` Sean Rima
2002-02-21 20:24 ` Sean Rima
2002-02-21 17:26 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-02-21 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> writes:
> (cond ((string= group "mail.private")
Are you sure the group name is "mail.private" and not, say,
"nnmaildir:mail.private"? I think you are using the right group
name, but I'm not sure.
(A simple invocation of message in that function should tell the
story. Or M-x debug-on-entry RET.)
kai
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* Re: nnmaildir, expiry problem
2002-02-20 21:54 nnmaildir, expiry problem Sean Rima
2002-02-21 17:26 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-02-21 17:26 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-02-21 18:12 ` Paul Jarc
2002-02-21 18:12 ` Paul Jarc
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From: Paul Jarc @ 2002-02-21 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> wrote:
> (setq nnmail-expiry-wait-function
...
> What else do I need to do or can you not expire mail whilst using
> nnmaildir.
You can, but nnmaildir doesn't look at nnmail-* unless you tell it to
(via the group parameters that nnmaildir *does* look at). nnmaildir
is Different.
(add-to-list 'gnus-parameters
'("" (expire-age . [(your-expire-age-function)])))
(defun your-expire-age-function ()
(if nnmail-expiry-wait-function
(* 86400 ;; seconds per day
(nnmail-expiry-wait-function
(gnus-group-real-name gnus-newsgroup-name)))
nnmail-expiry-wait))
I'll see how much it would impact the existing nnmaildir code to make
this the default when the expire-age parameter is not set, so you
could pretend nnmaildir looks directly at nnmail-*.
See <URL:http://multivac.cwru.edu./nnmaildir/using/#group-setup>,
which I really ought to add to the Gnus manual soon.
paul
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* Re: nnmaildir, expiry problem
2002-02-20 21:54 nnmaildir, expiry problem Sean Rima
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2002-02-21 18:12 ` Paul Jarc
@ 2002-02-21 18:12 ` Paul Jarc
2002-02-21 19:06 ` cvs commit stalling (was: nnmaildir, expiry problem) Paul Jarc
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From: Paul Jarc @ 2002-02-21 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> wrote:
> (setq nnmail-expiry-wait-function
...
> What else do I need to do or can you not expire mail whilst using
> nnmaildir.
You can, but nnmaildir doesn't look at nnmail-* unless you tell it to
(via the group parameters that nnmaildir *does* look at). nnmaildir
is Different.
(add-to-list 'gnus-parameters
'("" (expire-age . [(your-expire-age-function)])))
(defun your-expire-age-function ()
(if nnmail-expiry-wait-function
(* 86400 ;; seconds per day
(nnmail-expiry-wait-function
(gnus-group-real-name gnus-newsgroup-name)))
nnmail-expiry-wait))
I'll see how much it would impact the existing nnmaildir code to make
this the default when the expire-age parameter is not set, so you
could pretend nnmaildir looks directly at nnmail-*.
See <URL:http://multivac.cwru.edu./nnmaildir/using/#group-setup>,
which I really ought to add to the Gnus manual soon.
paul
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* cvs commit stalling (was: nnmaildir, expiry problem)
2002-02-21 18:12 ` Paul Jarc
2002-02-21 19:06 ` cvs commit stalling (was: nnmaildir, expiry problem) Paul Jarc
@ 2002-02-21 19:06 ` Paul Jarc
2002-02-21 20:25 ` nnmaildir, expiry problem Sean Rima
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From: Paul Jarc @ 2002-02-21 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
I wrote:
> I'll see how much it would impact the existing nnmaildir code to make
> this the default when the expire-age parameter is not set, so you
> could pretend nnmaildir looks directly at nnmail-*.
I've done this, but my cvs commit can't get a lock:
cvs server: [20:02:21] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:02:51] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:03:21] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:03:51] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:04:21] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:04:51] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:05:21] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:05:51] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:06:21] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:06:51] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
Can anyone fix this?
paul
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* cvs commit stalling (was: nnmaildir, expiry problem)
2002-02-21 18:12 ` Paul Jarc
@ 2002-02-21 19:06 ` Paul Jarc
2002-02-21 19:06 ` Paul Jarc
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From: Paul Jarc @ 2002-02-21 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
I wrote:
> I'll see how much it would impact the existing nnmaildir code to make
> this the default when the expire-age parameter is not set, so you
> could pretend nnmaildir looks directly at nnmail-*.
I've done this, but my cvs commit can't get a lock:
cvs server: [20:02:21] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:02:51] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:03:21] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:03:51] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:04:21] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:04:51] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:05:21] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:05:51] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:06:21] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
cvs server: [20:06:51] waiting for cvs's lock in /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/lisp
Can anyone fix this?
paul
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* Re: nnmaildir, expiry problem
2002-02-21 17:26 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-02-21 20:24 ` Sean Rima
@ 2002-02-21 20:24 ` Sean Rima
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From: Sean Rima @ 2002-02-21 20:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Paul Kelly can witness that Kai on Thu, 21 Feb 2002 wrote:
> Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> writes:
>
>> (cond ((string= group "mail.private")
>
> Are you sure the group name is "mail.private" and not, say,
> "nnmaildir:mail.private"? I think you are using the right group
> name, but I'm not sure.
>
> (A simple invocation of message in that function should tell the
> story. Or M-x debug-on-entry RET.)
>
Okay, I have to admit that I possibly read the info on setting group
expiries wrong, I thought it mean't you only needed to use the dir name
and not the full nnmaildir:....:maildir
Will try that now.
Sean
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* Re: nnmaildir, expiry problem
2002-02-21 17:26 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-02-21 20:24 ` Sean Rima
2002-02-21 20:24 ` Sean Rima
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Paul Kelly can witness that Kai on Thu, 21 Feb 2002 wrote:
> Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> writes:
>
>> (cond ((string= group "mail.private")
>
> Are you sure the group name is "mail.private" and not, say,
> "nnmaildir:mail.private"? I think you are using the right group
> name, but I'm not sure.
>
> (A simple invocation of message in that function should tell the
> story. Or M-x debug-on-entry RET.)
>
Okay, I have to admit that I possibly read the info on setting group
expiries wrong, I thought it mean't you only needed to use the dir name
and not the full nnmaildir:....:maildir
Will try that now.
Sean
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* Re: nnmaildir, expiry problem
2002-02-21 18:12 ` Paul Jarc
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2002-02-21 20:25 ` nnmaildir, expiry problem Sean Rima
@ 2002-02-21 20:25 ` Sean Rima
2002-02-21 21:28 ` Sean Rima
2002-02-21 21:28 ` Sean Rima
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From: Sean Rima @ 2002-02-21 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Paul Jarc thusly discussed the words of the
Internet Oracle:
> Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> wrote:
>> (setq nnmail-expiry-wait-function
> ...
>> What else do I need to do or can you not expire mail whilst using
>> nnmaildir.
>
> You can, but nnmaildir doesn't look at nnmail-* unless you tell it to
> (via the group parameters that nnmaildir *does* look at). nnmaildir
> is Different.
>
> (add-to-list 'gnus-parameters
> '("" (expire-age . [(your-expire-age-function)])))
> (defun your-expire-age-function ()
> (if nnmail-expiry-wait-function
> (* 86400 ;; seconds per day
> (nnmail-expiry-wait-function
> (gnus-group-real-name gnus-newsgroup-name)))
> nnmail-expiry-wait))
>
> I'll see how much it would impact the existing nnmaildir code to make
> this the default when the expire-age parameter is not set, so you
> could pretend nnmaildir looks directly at nnmail-*.
>
I will try both yours and Kai's suggestions and see what the outcome is
:)
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* Re: nnmaildir, expiry problem
2002-02-21 18:12 ` Paul Jarc
2002-02-21 19:06 ` cvs commit stalling (was: nnmaildir, expiry problem) Paul Jarc
2002-02-21 19:06 ` Paul Jarc
@ 2002-02-21 20:25 ` Sean Rima
2002-02-21 20:25 ` Sean Rima
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Paul Jarc thusly discussed the words of the
Internet Oracle:
> Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> wrote:
>> (setq nnmail-expiry-wait-function
> ...
>> What else do I need to do or can you not expire mail whilst using
>> nnmaildir.
>
> You can, but nnmaildir doesn't look at nnmail-* unless you tell it to
> (via the group parameters that nnmaildir *does* look at). nnmaildir
> is Different.
>
> (add-to-list 'gnus-parameters
> '("" (expire-age . [(your-expire-age-function)])))
> (defun your-expire-age-function ()
> (if nnmail-expiry-wait-function
> (* 86400 ;; seconds per day
> (nnmail-expiry-wait-function
> (gnus-group-real-name gnus-newsgroup-name)))
> nnmail-expiry-wait))
>
> I'll see how much it would impact the existing nnmaildir code to make
> this the default when the expire-age parameter is not set, so you
> could pretend nnmaildir looks directly at nnmail-*.
>
I will try both yours and Kai's suggestions and see what the outcome is
:)
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* Re: nnmaildir, expiry problem
2002-02-21 18:12 ` Paul Jarc
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2002-02-21 20:25 ` Sean Rima
@ 2002-02-21 21:28 ` Sean Rima
2002-02-21 21:28 ` Sean Rima
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> Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> wrote:
>> (setq nnmail-expiry-wait-function
> ...
>> What else do I need to do or can you not expire mail whilst using
>> nnmaildir.
>
> You can, but nnmaildir doesn't look at nnmail-* unless you tell it to
> (via the group parameters that nnmaildir *does* look at). nnmaildir
> is Different.
>
What are the nnmaildir group settings that you can use to set the expiry
wait for groups. I cannot find it in the el file.
Sean
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* Re: nnmaildir, expiry problem
2002-02-21 18:12 ` Paul Jarc
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@ 2002-02-21 21:28 ` Sean Rima
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> Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> wrote:
>> (setq nnmail-expiry-wait-function
> ...
>> What else do I need to do or can you not expire mail whilst using
>> nnmaildir.
>
> You can, but nnmaildir doesn't look at nnmail-* unless you tell it to
> (via the group parameters that nnmaildir *does* look at). nnmaildir
> is Different.
>
What are the nnmaildir group settings that you can use to set the expiry
wait for groups. I cannot find it in the el file.
Sean
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* Re: nnmaildir, expiry problem
2002-02-21 21:28 ` Sean Rima
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2002-02-21 21:46 ` Paul Jarc
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From: Paul Jarc @ 2002-02-21 21:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> wrote:
> What are the nnmaildir group settings that you can use to set the expiry
> wait for groups.
My cvs commit finally succeeded, so if you get a fresh checkout, your
nnmail-expiry-wait-function should now work as-is.
paul
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* Re: nnmaildir, expiry problem
2002-02-21 21:28 ` Sean Rima
2002-02-21 21:46 ` Paul Jarc
@ 2002-02-21 21:46 ` Paul Jarc
2002-02-21 23:03 ` Sean Rima
2002-02-21 23:03 ` Sean Rima
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From: Paul Jarc @ 2002-02-21 21:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> wrote:
> What are the nnmaildir group settings that you can use to set the expiry
> wait for groups.
My cvs commit finally succeeded, so if you get a fresh checkout, your
nnmail-expiry-wait-function should now work as-is.
paul
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* Re: nnmaildir, expiry problem
2002-02-21 21:46 ` Paul Jarc
@ 2002-02-21 23:03 ` Sean Rima
2002-02-21 23:03 ` Sean Rima
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> Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> wrote:
>> What are the nnmaildir group settings that you can use to set the
>> expiry wait for groups.
>
> My cvs commit finally succeeded, so if you get a fresh checkout, your
> nnmail-expiry-wait-function should now work as-is.
>
>
Yeah just grabbed it, now to wait and see what happens tomorrow :)
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* Re: nnmaildir, expiry problem
2002-02-21 21:46 ` Paul Jarc
2002-02-21 23:03 ` Sean Rima
@ 2002-02-21 23:03 ` Sean Rima
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From: Sean Rima @ 2002-02-21 23:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Paul Kelly can witness that Paul Jarc on Thu, 21 Feb 2002 wrote:
> Sean Rima <spamtrap@tcob1.net> wrote:
>> What are the nnmaildir group settings that you can use to set the
>> expiry wait for groups.
>
> My cvs commit finally succeeded, so if you get a fresh checkout, your
> nnmail-expiry-wait-function should now work as-is.
>
>
Yeah just grabbed it, now to wait and see what happens tomorrow :)
Sean
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* nnmaildir, expiry problem
@ 2002-02-20 21:54 Sean Rima
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From: Sean Rima @ 2002-02-20 21:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I am not sure if I am doing something wrong, but I have use nnmaildir as
Maildrop filters my mail prior to gnus getting it's hands on it.
I get a couple of large mailing lists in and I have noticed that even
though I have set a group expiry for them:
(setq nnmail-expiry-wait-function
(lambda (group)
(cond ((string= group "mail.private")
31)
((string= group "suse")
1)
((string= group "cicq")
1)
....
That when gnus leaves the group, nothing gets expired. SOme of the mail
is almost a week old.
What else do I need to do or can you not expire mail whilst using
nnmaildir.
Sean
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