From: Thomas Streicher <stre...@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
To: Thorsten Altenkirch <Thorsten....@nottingham.ac.uk>
Cc: Michael Shulman <shu...@sandiego.edu>,
"homotopyt...@googlegroups.com" <homotopyt...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Re: Where is the problem with initiality?
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 12:10:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180530101041.GA30885@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5559377C-94C9-422E-BBF7-A07AFA4B7D04@exmail.nottingham.ac.uk>
> On 30/05/2018, 10:33, "Thomas Streicher" <stre...@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote:
>
> That categorical syntax and ordinary syntax are isomorphic is just a
> purely syntactic result allowing one to replace correct algebraic
> syntax by one more accessible for the human mind.
>
> For the human mind accustomed to the separation of collections and predicates as present in conventional Mathematics.
That we have in TT as well turning a predicate P on A into the type
(Sigma x:A) P(x).
But that's not the issue here. Its rather syntax with variables as
opposed to syntax with combinators.
In topos theory performing arguments within internal language giving
the illusion of elements is much simpler than chasing diagrams. The
former seems closer to how our mind seems to work. But not verything
can be done internally. Mathematics is all internal, it's logic which
can speak also about the external.
Thomas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-30 10:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-22 5:46 Michael Shulman
2018-05-22 16:47 ` Ambrus Kaposi
2018-05-23 16:26 ` [HoTT] " Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-24 5:52 ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-24 8:11 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-24 9:53 ` Ambrus Kaposi
2018-05-24 17:26 ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-26 9:21 ` Thomas Streicher
2018-05-26 11:47 ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-26 16:47 ` stre...
2018-05-27 5:14 ` Bas Spitters
2018-05-28 22:39 ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-29 9:15 ` [HoTT] " Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-29 15:15 ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-30 9:33 ` Thomas Streicher
2018-05-30 9:37 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-30 10:10 ` Thomas Streicher [this message]
2018-05-30 12:08 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-30 13:40 ` Thomas Streicher
2018-05-30 14:38 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-30 10:53 ` Alexander Kurz
2018-05-30 12:05 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-30 19:07 ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-31 10:06 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-31 11:05 ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-31 19:02 ` Alexander Kurz
2018-06-01 9:55 ` Martin Escardo
2018-06-01 17:07 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-06-01 17:43 ` Eric Finster
2018-06-01 19:55 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-06-01 20:59 ` András Kovács
2018-06-01 21:06 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-06-01 21:23 ` Michael Shulman
2018-06-01 21:53 ` Eric Finster
2018-06-01 22:09 ` Michael Shulman
2018-06-02 15:06 ` Eric Finster
2018-06-05 20:04 ` Michael Shulman
2018-06-02 5:13 ` Thomas Streicher
2018-06-01 21:52 ` Jasper Hugunin
2018-06-01 22:00 ` Eric Finster
2018-06-01 21:27 ` Matt Oliveri
2018-06-02 5:21 ` Ambrus Kaposi
2018-06-02 6:01 ` Thomas Streicher
2018-06-02 14:35 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-30 13:30 ` Jon Sterling
2018-06-05 7:52 ` Andrej Bauer
2018-06-05 8:37 ` David Roberts
2018-06-05 9:46 ` Gabriel Scherer
2018-06-05 22:19 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-06-05 22:54 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-06-05 22:12 ` Richard Williamson
2018-06-06 15:05 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-06-06 19:25 ` Richard Williamson
2018-05-29 14:00 ` Jon Sterling
2018-05-30 22:35 ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-31 10:48 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-05-31 11:09 ` Michael Shulman
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