Discussion of Homotopy Type Theory and Univalent Foundations
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From: Jasper Hugunin <jas...@cs.washington.edu>
To: HomotopyTypeTheory@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Re: Where is the problem with initiality?
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 14:52:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGTS-a8gXmo4=JuHAFLhqVSvfZjYemgtbpC+79EVY=L2UmTgEw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA3CDBagp=z5f-h3gBamc-dV7eUSb07s7eZUwf0qau-efNEZXg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Friday, 1 June 2018 18:45:42 UTC+1, Eric Finster wrote:

> But, then, this seems to be a statement about *extrinsic* syntax.  If,
> as Thorsten advocates, we somehow manage to produce a highly
> structured, internal description of the syntax of type theory,
> then typechecking for this syntax is, by definition, unnecessary!


On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 1:59 PM András Kovács <putta...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Type checking must be performed in any case, at some level. If we use
> intrinsic embedded syntaxes, then the implementation of the metalanguage
> (in a meta-metalanguage) does the type checking. Hence, if we intend to
> formalize a syntax of type theory which is intended as a metatheoretical
> setting for mathematics, then I think decidability is quite important.
>

 If we don't intend our type theory to be used as a metatheoretical setting
for mathematics, it seems interesting to consider for example a type theory
with a family of base types indexed by the circle, the syntax of which I
think would not form a set.
That is, if we have a way to represent dependent type theory in Coq, what
happens if we add a constructor `a_circle_of_types : circle -> type` to our
syntax (for a postulated circle, or HIT)? This should be consistent, to add
a family of uninterpreted types, but I believe equality is no longer
decidable (since equality of circle is not decidable).

- Jasper Hugunin

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-01 21:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-22  5:46 Michael Shulman
2018-05-22 16:47 ` Ambrus Kaposi
2018-05-23 16:26 ` [HoTT] " Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-24  5:52   ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-24  8:11     ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-24  9:53       ` Ambrus Kaposi
2018-05-24 17:26         ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-26  9:21           ` Thomas Streicher
2018-05-26 11:47             ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-26 16:47               ` stre...
2018-05-27  5:14                 ` Bas Spitters
2018-05-28 22:39 ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-29  9:15   ` [HoTT] " Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-29 15:15     ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-30  9:33       ` Thomas Streicher
2018-05-30  9:37         ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-30 10:10           ` Thomas Streicher
2018-05-30 12:08             ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-30 13:40               ` Thomas Streicher
2018-05-30 14:38                 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-30 10:53           ` Alexander Kurz
2018-05-30 12:05             ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-30 19:07               ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-31 10:06                 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-31 11:05                   ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-31 19:02                     ` Alexander Kurz
2018-06-01  9:55                       ` Martin Escardo
2018-06-01 17:07                       ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-06-01 17:43                         ` Eric Finster
2018-06-01 19:55                           ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-06-01 20:59                             ` András Kovács
2018-06-01 21:06                               ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-06-01 21:23                                 ` Michael Shulman
2018-06-01 21:53                                   ` Eric Finster
2018-06-01 22:09                                     ` Michael Shulman
2018-06-02 15:06                                       ` Eric Finster
2018-06-05 20:04                                         ` Michael Shulman
2018-06-02  5:13                                 ` Thomas Streicher
2018-06-01 21:52                               ` Jasper Hugunin [this message]
2018-06-01 22:00                                 ` Eric Finster
2018-06-01 21:27                           ` Matt Oliveri
2018-06-02  5:21                             ` Ambrus Kaposi
2018-06-02  6:01                               ` Thomas Streicher
2018-06-02 14:35                           ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-05-30 13:30             ` Jon Sterling
2018-06-05  7:52             ` Andrej Bauer
2018-06-05  8:37               ` David Roberts
2018-06-05  9:46                 ` Gabriel Scherer
2018-06-05 22:19                 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-06-05 22:54                   ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-06-05 22:12               ` Richard Williamson
2018-06-06 15:05                 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-06-06 19:25                   ` Richard Williamson
2018-05-29 14:00   ` Jon Sterling
2018-05-30 22:35     ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-31 10:48       ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-05-31 11:09         ` Michael Shulman

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