Discussion of Homotopy Type Theory and Univalent Foundations
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From: Bas Spitters <b.a.w.spitters@gmail.com>
To: Thorsten Altenkirch <Thorsten.Altenkirch@nottingham.ac.uk>
Cc: "streicher@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de"
	<streicher@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>,
	 Michael Shulman <shulman@sandiego.edu>,
	 Homotopy Type Theory <homotopytypetheory@googlegroups.com>,
	agda list <agda@lists.chalmers.se>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Re: Why do we need judgmental equality?
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 15:24:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOoPQuQtWARioAkH2J2t7G6N+1XvhQwdKytPh97LWU3GsF2Wmg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F5144E85-3CBB-4D67-A4BB-F93EB6F88531@nottingham.ac.uk>

I think Thomas is referring to M-types which can be constructed in
HoTT, moreover, they have the right equality in guarded or cubical
type theory.
I've collected some references here. Please feel free to expand.
https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/M-type

On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 12:44 PM Thorsten Altenkirch
<Thorsten.Altenkirch@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
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>     But function types are neither inductive nor conductive. Only N-> (-) ist
>     coinductive.
>     In presence of function types most coinductive types can be implemented.
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> You think of terminal coalgebras - that is not what I mean. To avoid this confusion I am using the term codata but most people in CS understand coinductive better. You can define a type by saying how elements can be constructed, this is data Alternatively you say what you can do with it, i.e. how elements can be destructed. The function type is not data, functions are not understood by the way they are constructed but what you can do with it. A function is something you can apply to an argument and you get a result. Codata types always introduce non-trivial equalities, because all you can do with a function is applying it to arguments two functions which provide the same output for all inputs are equal. Hence functional extensionality should hold.
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>     Maybe coinductive is a style of programming but nothing really foundational.
>
> I think you miss something important here.
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-17 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-30 11:54 [HoTT] " Felix Rech
2019-02-05 23:00 ` [HoTT] " Matt Oliveri
2019-02-06  4:13   ` Anders Mörtberg
2019-02-09 11:55     ` Felix Rech
2019-02-16 15:59     ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2019-02-17  1:25       ` Michael Shulman
2019-02-17  7:56         ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2019-02-17  9:14           ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-17  9:18           ` Michael Shulman
2019-02-17 10:52             ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2019-02-17 11:35               ` streicher
2019-02-17 11:44                 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2019-02-17 14:24                   ` Bas Spitters [this message]
2019-02-17 19:36                   ` Thomas Streicher
2019-02-17 21:41                     ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2019-02-17 12:08             ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-17 12:13               ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-20  0:22               ` Michael Shulman
2019-02-17 14:22           ` [Agda] " Andreas Abel
2019-02-17  9:05         ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-17 13:29         ` Nicolai Kraus
2019-02-08 21:19 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2019-02-08 23:31   ` Valery Isaev
2019-02-09  1:41     ` Nicolai Kraus
2019-02-09  8:04       ` Valery Isaev
2019-02-09  1:58     ` Jon Sterling
2019-02-09  8:16       ` Valery Isaev
2019-02-09  1:30   ` Nicolai Kraus
2019-02-09 11:38   ` Thomas Streicher
2019-02-09 13:29     ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2019-02-09 13:40       ` Théo Winterhalter
2019-02-09 11:57   ` Felix Rech
2019-02-09 12:39     ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2019-02-11  6:58     ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-18 17:37   ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2019-02-18 19:22     ` Licata, Dan
2019-02-18 20:23       ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2019-02-09 11:53 ` Felix Rech
2019-02-09 14:04   ` Nicolai Kraus
2019-02-09 14:26     ` Gabriel Scherer
2019-02-09 14:44     ` Jon Sterling
2019-02-09 20:34       ` Michael Shulman
2019-02-11 12:17         ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-11 13:04           ` Michael Shulman
2019-02-11 15:09             ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-11 17:20               ` Michael Shulman
2019-02-11 18:17                 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2019-02-11 18:45                   ` Alexander Kurz
2019-02-11 22:58                     ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2019-02-12  2:09                       ` Jacques Carette
2019-02-12 11:03                   ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-12 15:36                     ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2019-02-12 15:59                       ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-11 19:27                 ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-11 21:49                   ` Michael Shulman
2019-02-12  9:01                     ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-12 17:54                       ` Michael Shulman
2019-02-13  6:37                         ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-13 10:01                           ` Ansten Mørch Klev
2019-02-11 20:11                 ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-11  8:23       ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-11 13:03         ` Jon Sterling
2019-02-11 13:22           ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-11 13:37             ` Jon Sterling
2019-02-11  6:51   ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-09 12:30 ` [HoTT] " Thorsten Altenkirch
2019-02-11  7:01   ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-11  8:04     ` Valery Isaev
2019-02-11  8:28       ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-11  8:37         ` Matt Oliveri
2019-02-11  9:32           ` Rafaël Bocquet

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