From: Dan Licata <d...@cs.cmu.edu>
To: Michael Shulman <shu...@sandiego.edu>
Cc: Andrew Polonsky <andrew....@gmail.com>,
Homotopy Type Theory <HomotopyT...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] A puzzle about "univalent equality"
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 08:56:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F150B021-DD6E-4BF3-AC2A-386A172AE598@cs.cmu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOvivQwgfVzH9N_JhgdjB4KC5+LmMEjAJpO-mKo_Mm70OOgr4w@mail.gmail.com>
and the issue only comes up if you don’t have K, which would equate (ap (λ u → u True True) e) and Refl
-Dan
> On Sep 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Michael Shulman <shu...@sandiego.edu> wrote:
>
> Although, as Voevodsky showed, weak funext implies strong funext.
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Andrew Polonsky
> <andrew....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks, Mike and Dan. And congratulations on giving essentially
>> identical solutions at essentially identical times, in two different
>> languages!
>>
>>> I would be very surprised if there was something like this that was not provable in "book HoTT”.
>>
>> I believe there can't be, either. But maybe this "belief" is really a
>> matter of definition, in that the equalities which are "supposed to"
>> hold, are precisely those which can be derived in book HoTT.
>>
>> What I find subtle in the above example is that it apparently cannot
>> be done with the "pre-HoTT" FunExt axiom; you need to use the stronger
>> formulation, that the canonical map (f=g -> f==g) is an equivalence,
>> to make the transports compute.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrew
>>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-06 12:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-05 16:54 Andrew Polonsky
2016-09-05 21:40 ` [HoTT] " Michael Shulman
2016-09-05 21:51 ` Dan Licata
2016-09-06 7:30 ` Andrew Polonsky
2016-09-06 12:32 ` Michael Shulman
2016-09-06 12:56 ` Dan Licata [this message]
2016-09-06 12:57 ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2016-09-06 13:44 ` Andrew Polonsky
2016-09-06 22:14 ` Martin Escardo
2016-09-07 23:18 ` Matt Oliveri
2016-09-08 4:14 ` Michael Shulman
2016-09-08 6:06 ` Jason Gross
2016-09-08 9:11 ` Martin Escardo
2016-09-08 6:34 ` Matt Oliveri
2016-09-08 6:45 ` Michael Shulman
2016-09-08 9:07 ` Martin Escardo
2016-09-08 9:51 ` Thomas Streicher
2016-09-19 12:40 ` Robin Adams
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