Discussion of Homotopy Type Theory and Univalent Foundations
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From: Matt Oliveri <atm...@gmail.com>
To: Homotopy Type Theory <HomotopyT...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] A puzzle about "univalent equality"
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 16:18:33 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a88b7834-5ce8-47d6-803a-d2a98ed27084@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <143ade6b-1b68-36fe-a765-c54d9f6fac8c@googlemail.com>


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On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 6:14:24 PM UTC-4, Martin Hotzel Escardo 
wrote:
>
> Some people like the K-axiom for U because ... (let them fill the answer).
>

It allows you to interpret (within type theory) the types of ITT + K as 
types of U, and their elements as the corresponding elements. (Conjecture?) 
Whereas without K, we don't know how to interpret ITT types as types of U. 
In other words, K is a simple way to give ITT reflection.

Can we stare at the type (Id U X Y) objectively, mathematically, say 
> within intensional MLTT, where it was introduced, and, internally in 
> MLTT, ponder what it can be, and identify the only "compelling" thing it 
> can be as the type of equivalences X~Y, where "compelling" is a notion 
> remote from univalence?
>

How does Zermelo-style set-theoretic equality get ruled out as a potential 
"compelling" meaning for identity? Of course, there's a potential argument 
about what "compelling" ought to be getting at. You seem to not consider 
set-theoretic equality compelling, which I can play along with.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-07 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-05 16:54 Andrew Polonsky
2016-09-05 21:40 ` [HoTT] " Michael Shulman
2016-09-05 21:51 ` Dan Licata
2016-09-06  7:30   ` Andrew Polonsky
2016-09-06 12:32     ` Michael Shulman
2016-09-06 12:56       ` Dan Licata
2016-09-06 12:57       ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2016-09-06 13:44         ` Andrew Polonsky
2016-09-06 22:14           ` Martin Escardo
2016-09-07 23:18             ` Matt Oliveri [this message]
2016-09-08  4:14               ` Michael Shulman
2016-09-08  6:06                 ` Jason Gross
2016-09-08  9:11                   ` Martin Escardo
2016-09-08  6:34                 ` Matt Oliveri
2016-09-08  6:45                   ` Michael Shulman
2016-09-08  9:07                     ` Martin Escardo
2016-09-08  9:51                       ` Thomas Streicher
2016-09-19 12:40 ` Robin Adams

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