* Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
@ 2008-06-28 22:20 Kenneth Jacker
2008-06-29 3:23 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus mike.rosset+gnus
2008-06-29 6:00 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Sven Joachim
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Kenneth Jacker @ 2008-06-28 22:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
I decided to upgrade my office machine to the newest Ubuntu (8.04/Hardy).
Unfortunately, 'gnus' failed to work from the very start (problems
with 'gnus-load', ...).
Does anyone have Gnus running with Emacs22 on Ubuntu?
I removed Emacs22 and installed Emacs21 and Gnus is usable (it is what
I'm using now to post this article), but doesn't seem quite right".
Thanks for any ideas!
--
Prof Kenneth H Jacker khj@cs.appstate.edu
Computer Science Dept www.cs.appstate.edu/~khj
Appalachian State Univ
Boone, NC 28608 USA
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* Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
2008-06-28 22:20 Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Kenneth Jacker
@ 2008-06-29 3:23 ` mike.rosset+gnus
2008-06-29 6:00 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Sven Joachim
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From: mike.rosset+gnus @ 2008-06-29 3:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Kenneth:
Try running with "emacs --debug-init" and the check the *messages*
buffer. This should give you a better Idea as to whats going wrong.
Mike
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* Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
2008-06-28 22:20 Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Kenneth Jacker
2008-06-29 3:23 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus mike.rosset+gnus
@ 2008-06-29 6:00 ` Sven Joachim
2008-06-29 14:17 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Richard G Riley
2008-06-29 21:11 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Kenneth Jacker
1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Sven Joachim @ 2008-06-29 6:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
On 2008-06-29 00:20 +0200, Kenneth Jacker wrote:
> I decided to upgrade my office machine to the newest Ubuntu (8.04/Hardy).
>
> Unfortunately, 'gnus' failed to work from the very start (problems
> with 'gnus-load', ...).
The Gnus in Ubuntu is not byte-compiled for the emacs22 package, so
Emacs will use the one that comes with Emacs which may lack some
feature that you want in your .gnus.el. See
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnus/+bug/133621.
> Does anyone have Gnus running with Emacs22 on Ubuntu?
>
> I removed Emacs22 and installed Emacs21 and Gnus is usable (it is what
> I'm using now to post this article), but doesn't seem quite right".
Forget about the Gnus that comes with Ubuntu, it is completely
unmaintained, very outdated and lacks documentation
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnus/+bug/227925).
See http://gnus.org/distribution.html how to get a newer version.
Sven
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* Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
2008-06-29 6:00 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Sven Joachim
@ 2008-06-29 14:17 ` Richard G Riley
2008-06-29 21:11 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Kenneth Jacker
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Richard G Riley @ 2008-06-29 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> writes:
> On 2008-06-29 00:20 +0200, Kenneth Jacker wrote:
>
>> I decided to upgrade my office machine to the newest Ubuntu (8.04/Hardy).
>>
>> Unfortunately, 'gnus' failed to work from the very start (problems
>> with 'gnus-load', ...).
>
> The Gnus in Ubuntu is not byte-compiled for the emacs22 package, so
> Emacs will use the one that comes with Emacs which may lack some
> feature that you want in your .gnus.el. See
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnus/+bug/133621.
>
>> Does anyone have Gnus running with Emacs22 on Ubuntu?
>>
>> I removed Emacs22 and installed Emacs21 and Gnus is usable (it is what
>> I'm using now to post this article), but doesn't seem quite right".
>
> Forget about the Gnus that comes with Ubuntu, it is completely
> unmaintained, very outdated and lacks documentation
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnus/+bug/227925).
>
> See http://gnus.org/distribution.html how to get a newer version.
>
> Sven
Ubuntu, like Debian, uses some munged site-lips/autoload system from what
I can gather and installing from source is not that straightforward. I
may be wrong and things have changed. Just a heads up on that one and
more info can be found in our friend Google.
The emacs (22.2.1) with Debian Lenny works fine "out of the box".
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* Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
2008-06-29 6:00 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Sven Joachim
2008-06-29 14:17 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Richard G Riley
@ 2008-06-29 21:11 ` Kenneth Jacker
2008-06-30 6:51 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus David Kastrup
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Kenneth Jacker @ 2008-06-29 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
sven> Forget about the Gnus that comes with Ubuntu, it is completely
sven> unmaintained, very outdated and lacks documentation
sven> See http://gnus.org/distribution.html how to get a newer version.
OK, I'm now successfully running Emacs22 and Gnus (gnus-5.10.10.tar.gz).
Thanks to everyone who replied to my "plea for help"!
-Kenneth
PS It is hard to believe that Ubuntu doesn't support Emacs22/Gnus ...
that combo contains two of my *most used* applications ...
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* Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
2008-06-29 21:11 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Kenneth Jacker
@ 2008-06-30 6:51 ` David Kastrup
2008-06-30 18:02 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Kenneth Jacker
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: David Kastrup @ 2008-06-30 6:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Kenneth Jacker <khj@be.cs.appstate.edu> writes:
> sven> Forget about the Gnus that comes with Ubuntu, it is completely
> sven> unmaintained, very outdated and lacks documentation
>
> sven> See http://gnus.org/distribution.html how to get a newer version.
>
> OK, I'm now successfully running Emacs22 and Gnus (gnus-5.10.10.tar.gz).
>
> Thanks to everyone who replied to my "plea for help"!
>
> -Kenneth
>
> PS It is hard to believe that Ubuntu doesn't support Emacs22/Gnus ...
> that combo contains two of my *most used* applications ...
Why don't you just use the Gnus that is part of Emacs 22?
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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* Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
2008-06-30 6:51 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus David Kastrup
@ 2008-06-30 18:02 ` Kenneth Jacker
2008-06-30 19:25 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus David Kastrup
2008-07-01 15:04 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Peter Smerdon
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Kenneth Jacker @ 2008-06-30 18:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
>> PS It is hard to believe that Ubuntu doesn't support Emacs22/Gnus ...
>> that combo contains two of my *most used* applications ...
dak> Why don't you just use the Gnus that is part of Emacs 22?
That's what I did the first time ... it didn't work ...
Are you using it? What version is it?
-Kenneth
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* Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
2008-06-30 18:02 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Kenneth Jacker
@ 2008-06-30 19:25 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-01 15:04 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Peter Smerdon
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: David Kastrup @ 2008-06-30 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Kenneth Jacker <khj@be.cs.appstate.edu> writes:
> >> PS It is hard to believe that Ubuntu doesn't support Emacs22/Gnus ...
> >> that combo contains two of my *most used* applications ...
>
> dak> Why don't you just use the Gnus that is part of Emacs 22?
>
> That's what I did the first time ... it didn't work ...
>
> Are you using it? What version is it?
Well, I am using developer versions of Emacs, anyway. But I don't
remember anything wrong with gnus before we forked off the Emacs 22
release branch.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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* Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
2008-06-30 18:02 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Kenneth Jacker
2008-06-30 19:25 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus David Kastrup
@ 2008-07-01 15:04 ` Peter Smerdon
2008-07-01 15:33 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Kenneth Jacker
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Peter Smerdon @ 2008-07-01 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Kenneth Jacker <khj@be.cs.appstate.edu> writes:
> >> PS It is hard to believe that Ubuntu doesn't support Emacs22/Gnus ...
> >> that combo contains two of my *most used* applications ...
>
> dak> Why don't you just use the Gnus that is part of Emacs 22?
>
> That's what I did the first time ... it didn't work ...
>
> Are you using it? What version is it?
>
> -Kenneth
Kenneth, FWIW, I used the Gnus version bundled with the ubuntu emacs22
package with no problems, and am currently using the ubuntu
emacs-snapshot package, which also contains gnus, again with no
problems. As dak pointed out there seems to be no need now to install a
stand alone gnus, the tramp package I think also falls into this
category.
--
Peter.
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* Re: Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus
2008-07-01 15:04 ` Ubuntu/Emacs22/Gnus Peter Smerdon
@ 2008-07-01 15:33 ` Kenneth Jacker
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Kenneth Jacker @ 2008-07-01 15:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
ps> FWIW, I used the Gnus version bundled with the ubuntu emacs22
ps> package with no problems, and am currently using the ubuntu
ps> emacs-snapshot package, which also contains gnus, again with no
ps> problems.
Hmmm ... I wonder why I couldn't get it to work? Maybe I had some
"legacy" config options in ".emacs" and ".gnus.el" that messed things up.
ps> As dak pointed out there seems to be no need now to install a
ps> stand alone gnus, ...
OK, but I don't think I'll change my setup now ("if it's not broken, ...").
Assuming I remember ;-), I'll try using the Ubuntu-distributed version
next time.
ps> ... the tramp package I think also falls into this category.
Yes, I noticed that it was now included ...
Thanks for your comments,
-Kenneth
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