Killing unwanted post

Killing unwanted post

[David Sumbler]

Occasionally when I am writing an email or news article I realize that
I don't want to send it after all, for some reason.  I don't want to
save it even as a draft, so I use C-c C-k, "message-kill-buffer".

I then get "Message modified; kill anyway? (yes or no)" in the
minibuffer.  Is there a way to suppress this message?  I'd like the
kill to happen without confirmation.

David

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Re: Killing unwanted post

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, david@nospam.co.uk wrote:

> Occasionally when I am writing an email or news article I realize that
> I don't want to send it after all, for some reason.  I don't want to
> save it even as a draft, so I use C-c C-k, "message-kill-buffer".
> 
> I then get "Message modified; kill anyway? (yes or no)" in the
> minibuffer.  Is there a way to suppress this message?  I'd like the
> kill to happen without confirmation.

I just added the message-kill-buffer-query-if-modified variable to
message.el in CVS.  It's t by default, so you should set it to nil to
achieve the desired effect.

Ted

Re: Killing unwanted post

[Reiner Steib]

On Thu, Apr 14 2005, Ted Zlatanov wrote:

> I just added the message-kill-buffer-query-if-modified variable to
> message.el in CVS.  It's t by default, so you should set it to nil to
> achieve the desired effect.

How about renaming it to `message-kill-buffer-query'?

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Re: Killing unwanted post

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc wrote:

On Thu, Apr 14 2005, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
> 
>> I just added the message-kill-buffer-query-if-modified variable to
>> message.el in CVS.  It's t by default, so you should set it to nil to
>> achieve the desired effect.
> 
> How about renaming it to `message-kill-buffer-query'?

I think the -if-modified is important, don't you?

There was also message-kill-buffer-on-exit which could be confusing to
the user with that name change (does message-kill-buffer-query apply
to it?).

If you feel it's a much better name, feel free to make the change :)
I am not strongly attached to it.

Ted

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Re: Killing unwanted post

[David Sumbler]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, david@nospam.co.uk wrote:
>
>> Occasionally when I am writing an email or news article I realize that
>> I don't want to send it after all, for some reason.  I don't want to
>> save it even as a draft, so I use C-c C-k, "message-kill-buffer".
>> 
>> I then get "Message modified; kill anyway? (yes or no)" in the
>> minibuffer.  Is there a way to suppress this message?  I'd like the
>> kill to happen without confirmation.
>
> I just added the message-kill-buffer-query-if-modified variable to
> message.el in CVS.  It's t by default, so you should set it to nil to
> achieve the desired effect.

I don't use CVS, but I tried adding the line

(setq message-kill-buffer-query-if-modified nil)

to message.el, then ran byte-compile-file on it.

But it didn't seem to make any difference.  I'm using Gnus v10.5.6.

What am I doing wrong?

David

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Re: Killing unwanted post

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, david@nospam.co.uk wrote:

> I don't use CVS, but I tried adding the line
> 
> (setq message-kill-buffer-query-if-modified nil)
> 
> to message.el, then ran byte-compile-file on it.
> 
> But it didn't seem to make any difference.  I'm using Gnus v10.5.6.

You need to get message.el (or all of Gnus) from CVS, or wait for the
next release.  It's a new feature so I don't think it should go into
the maintenance trunk, where only bug fixes are supposed to go.

Do you need help with that?

Ted

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Re: Killing unwanted post

[David Sumbler]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, david@nospam.co.uk wrote:
>
>> I don't use CVS, but I tried adding the line
>> 
>> (setq message-kill-buffer-query-if-modified nil)
>> 
>> to message.el, then ran byte-compile-file on it.
>> 
>> But it didn't seem to make any difference.  I'm using Gnus v10.5.6.
>
> You need to get message.el (or all of Gnus) from CVS, or wait for the
> next release.  It's a new feature so I don't think it should go into
> the maintenance trunk, where only bug fixes are supposed to go.
>
> Do you need help with that?

I'd probably need quite a bit of help.  I might try for just the
message.el bit, just to give me the idea.  I've never used CVS in
anger!

If it's not too much trouble, perhaps you could give me a brief
step-by-step guide.  I'd be very grateful, but don't worry if you
don't think it's practical.

David

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Re: Killing unwanted post

[Reiner Steib]

On Fri, Apr 15 2005, Ted Zlatanov wrote:

> You need to get message.el (or all of Gnus) from CVS, or wait for the
> next release.

IMO, replacing random parts like `message.el' from newer Gnus versions
is a recipe for trouble.

David could either apply your patch to Gnus 5.10.x or do something
like the following in his `~/.gnus.el'.

(require 'message)
(unless (boundp 'message-kill-buffer-query-if-modified)
  (defcustom message-kill-buffer-query-if-modified t
    ...
    [from No Gnus]
    ...)
  (defun message-kill-buffer-from ()
    "Kill the current buffer.  From No Gnus."
    ...
    [from No Gnus]
    ...)
  (message "Replaced `message-kill-buffer-from'"))

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Re: Killing unwanted post

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, david@nospam.co.uk wrote:

> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> 
>> You need to get message.el (or all of Gnus) from CVS, or wait for the
>> next release.  It's a new feature so I don't think it should go into
>> the maintenance trunk, where only bug fixes are supposed to go.
>>
>> Do you need help with that?
> 
> I'd probably need quite a bit of help.  I might try for just the
> message.el bit, just to give me the idea.  I've never used CVS in
> anger!
> 
> If it's not too much trouble, perhaps you could give me a brief
> step-by-step guide.  I'd be very grateful, but don't worry if you
> don't think it's practical.

As Reiner pointed out, message.el by itself may be trouble.  I would
get Gnus from CVS - it works great, and there have been no major
changes since the release you are using.

You can get the CVS Gnus instructions here:

http://gnus.org/distribution.html

Ted

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Re: Killing unwanted post

[Reiner Steib]

On Thu, Apr 14 2005, Ted Zlatanov wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 14 2005, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
>>> I just added the message-kill-buffer-query-if-modified variable to
>>> message.el in CVS.  [...]
>> How about renaming it to `message-kill-buffer-query'?
>
> I think the -if-modified is important, don't you?

I think it is sufficient to have it in the doc string.  I don't see
any benefit in putting everything in the name.  (You ain't gonna win
the International Longest Variable Name Competition with it anyhow
because of `spam.el'. ;-))

> If you feel it's a much better name, feel free to make the change :)
> I am not strongly attached to it.

I've changed it and added :version.

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Re: Killing unwanted post

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc wrote:

> I think it is sufficient to have it in the doc string.  I don't see
> any benefit in putting everything in the name.  (You ain't gonna win
> the International Longest Variable Name Competition with it anyhow
> because of `spam.el'. ;-))

It's fine with me, thanks for handling it.

I'm just looking for opportunities to win the ILVNC, just biding my
time...  This is the real reason why I work in Emacs Lisp, all
variable names are global so you get to make them as long as you want :)

Ted