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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Michael Forney <mforney@mforney.org>,
	ALSA Development Mailing List <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linaro.org>,
	y2038 Mailman List <y2038@lists.linaro.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang7@gmail.com>,
	musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH v7 8/9] ALSA: add new 32-bit layout for snd_pcm_mmap_status/control
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2021 10:44:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5h4k9r9a84.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5h5yu79aab.wl-tiwai@suse.de>

On Fri, 08 Oct 2021 10:43:24 +0200,
Takashi Iwai wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 07 Oct 2021 18:51:58 +0200,
> Rich Felker wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, Oct 07, 2021 at 06:18:52PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > On Thu, 07 Oct 2021 18:06:36 +0200,
> > > Rich Felker wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, Oct 07, 2021 at 05:33:19PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 07 Oct 2021 15:11:00 +0200,
> > > > > Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 2:43 PM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, 07 Oct 2021 13:48:44 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 12:53 PM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 06 Oct 2021 19:49:17 +0200, Michael Forney wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As far as I can tell, the broken interface will always result in
> > > > > > > > user space seeing a zero value for "avail_min". Can you
> > > > > > > > make a prediction what that would mean for actual
> > > > > > > > applications? Will they have no audio output, run into
> > > > > > > > a crash, or be able to use recover and appear to work normally
> > > > > > > > here?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No, fortunately it's only about control->avail_min, and fiddling this
> > > > > > > value can't break severely (otherwise it'd be a security problem ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the buggy condition, it's always zero, and the kernel treated as if
> > > > > > > 1, i.e. wake up as soon as data is available, which is OK-ish for most
> > > > > > > applications.   Apps usually don't care about the wake-up condition so
> > > > > > > much.  There are subtle difference and may influence on the stability
> > > > > > > of stream processing, but the stability usually depends more strongly
> > > > > > > on the hardware and software configurations.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That being said, the impact by this bug (from the application behavior
> > > > > > > POV) is likely quite small, but the contamination is large; as you
> > > > > > > pointed out, it's much larger than I thought.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ok, got it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The definition in uapi/sound/asound.h is a bit cryptic, but IIUC,
> > > > > > > __snd_pcm_mmap_control64 is used for 64bit archs, right?  If so, the
> > > > > > > problem rather hits more widely on 64bit archs silently.  Then, the
> > > > > > > influence by this bug must be almost negligible, as we've had no bug
> > > > > > > report about the behavior change.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > While __snd_pcm_mmap_control64 is only used on 32-bit
> > > > > > architectures when 64-bit time_t is used. At the moment, this
> > > > > > means all users of musl-1.2.x libc, but not glibc.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 64-bit architectures, __snd_pcm_mmap_control and
> > > > > > __snd_pcm_mmap_control64 are meant to be identical,
> > > > > > and this is actually true regardless of the bug, since
> > > > > > __pad_before_uframe and __pad_after_uframe both
> > > > > > end up as zero-length arrays here.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We may just fix it in kernel and for new library with hoping that no
> > > > > > > one sees the actual problem.  Or, we may provide a complete new set of
> > > > > > > mmap offsets and ioctl to cover both broken and fixed interfaces...
> > > > > > > The decision depends on how perfectly we'd like to address the bug.
> > > > > > > As of now, I'm inclined to go for the former, but I'm open for more
> > > > > > > opinions.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Adding the musl list to Cc for additional testers, anyone interested
> > > > > > please see [1] for the original report.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It would be good to hear from musl users that are already using
> > > > > > audio support with 32-bit applications on 64-bit kernels, which
> > > > > > is the case that has the problem today. Have you noticed any
> > > > > > problems with audio support here? If not, we can probably
> > > > > > "fix" the kernel here and make the existing binaries behave
> > > > > > the same way on 32-bit kernels. If there are applications that
> > > > > > don't work in that environment today, I think we need to instead
> > > > > > change the kernel to accept the currently broken format on
> > > > > > both 32-bit and 64-bit kernels, possibly introducing yet another
> > > > > > format that works as originally intended but requires a newly
> > > > > > built kernel.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > 
> > > > > And now, looking more deeply, I feel more desperate.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This bug makes the expected padding gone on little-endian.
> > > > > On LE 32bit, the buggy definition is:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	char __pad1[0];
> > > > > 	u32 appl_ptr;
> > > > > 	char __pad2[0]; // this should have been [4]
> > > > > 	char __pad3[0];
> > > > > 	u32 avail_min;
> > > > > 	char __pad4[4];
> > > > > 	
> > > > > When an application issues SYNC_PTR64 ioctl to submit appl_ptr and
> > > > > avail_min updates, 64bit kernel (in compat mode) reads directly as:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	u64 appl_ptr;
> > > > > 	u64 avail_min;
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hence a bogus appl_ptr would be passed if avail_min != 0.
> > > > > And usually application sets non-zero avail_min.
> > > > > That is, the bug must hit more severely if the new API were really
> > > > > used.  It wouldn't crash, but some weird streaming behavior can
> > > > > happen like noise, jumping or underruns.
> > > > > 
> > > > > (Reading back avail_min=0 to user-space is rather harmless.  Ditto for
> > > > >  the case of BE, then at least there is no appl_ptr corruption.)
> > > > > 
> > > > > This made me wonder which way to go:
> > > > > it's certainly possible to fix the new kernel to treat both buggy and
> > > > > sane formats (disabling compat mmap and re-define ioctls, having the
> > > > > code for old APIs).  The problem is, however, in the case where the
> > > > > application needs to run on the older kernel that expects the buggy
> > > > > format.  Then apps would still have to send in the old buggy format --
> > > > > or maybe better in the older 32bit format that won't hit the bug
> > > > > above.  It makes situation more complicated.
> > > > 
> > > > Can't an ioctl number just be redefined so that, on old kernels with
> > > > the buggy one, newly built applications get told that mmap is not
> > > > available and use the unaffected non-mmap fallback?
> > > 
> > > The problem is that the SYNC_PTR64 ioctl itself for non-mmap fallback
> > > is equally buggy due to this bug, too.  So disabling mmap doesn't help
> > > alone.
> > > 
> > > And, yes, we can redefine ioctl numbers.  But, then, application would
> > > have to be bilingual, as well as the kernel; it'll have to switch back
> > > to old API when running on older kernel, while the same binary would
> > > need to run in a new API for a newer kernel.
> > > 
> > > Maybe we can implement it in alsa-lib, if it really worth for it.
> > 
> > In musl we already have ioctl struct conversion for running on
> > time32-only kernels. So it may be practical to convert this too if
> > needed.
> 
> I guess we can work around without ioctl renumbering.  The PCM API has
> a protocol version handshaking, and user-space is supposed to tell its
> API version to kernel.  So the kernel can know in what version
> user-space is talking with.
> 
> Below is the PoC fix in the kernel side (totally untested).
> The fix for alsa-lib will follow.

And below is the PoC fix for alsa-lib.


Takashi

---
diff --git a/include/sound/uapi/asound.h b/include/sound/uapi/asound.h
index 9fe3943f5fbb..ee91fe1f881f 100644
--- a/include/sound/uapi/asound.h
+++ b/include/sound/uapi/asound.h
@@ -154,7 +154,7 @@ struct snd_hwdep_dsp_image {
  *                                                                           *
  *****************************************************************************/
 
-#define SNDRV_PCM_VERSION		SNDRV_PROTOCOL_VERSION(2, 0, 15)
+#define SNDRV_PCM_VERSION		SNDRV_PROTOCOL_VERSION(2, 0, 16)
 
 typedef unsigned long snd_pcm_uframes_t;
 typedef signed long snd_pcm_sframes_t;
@@ -541,6 +541,7 @@ struct __snd_pcm_sync_ptr {
 	} s;
 	union {
 		struct __snd_pcm_mmap_control control;
+		struct __snd_pcm_mmap_control control_api_2_0_15; /* no bug in 32bit mode */
 		unsigned char reserved[64];
 	} c;
 };
@@ -548,11 +549,15 @@ struct __snd_pcm_sync_ptr {
 #if defined(__BYTE_ORDER) ? __BYTE_ORDER == __BIG_ENDIAN : defined(__BIG_ENDIAN)
 typedef char __pad_before_uframe[sizeof(__u64) - sizeof(snd_pcm_uframes_t)];
 typedef char __pad_after_uframe[0];
+typedef char __pad_before_u32[4];
+typedef char __pad_after_u32[0];
 #endif
 
 #if defined(__BYTE_ORDER) ? __BYTE_ORDER == __LITTLE_ENDIAN : defined(__LITTLE_ENDIAN)
 typedef char __pad_before_uframe[0];
 typedef char __pad_after_uframe[sizeof(__u64) - sizeof(snd_pcm_uframes_t)];
+typedef char __pad_before_u32[0];
+typedef char __pad_after_u32[4];
 #endif
 
 struct __snd_pcm_mmap_status64 {
@@ -570,13 +575,23 @@ struct __snd_pcm_mmap_status64 {
 struct __snd_pcm_mmap_control64 {
 	__pad_before_uframe __pad1;
 	snd_pcm_uframes_t appl_ptr;	 /* RW: appl ptr (0...boundary-1) */
-	__pad_before_uframe __pad2;
+	__pad_after_uframe __pad2;
 
 	__pad_before_uframe __pad3;
 	snd_pcm_uframes_t  avail_min;	 /* RW: min available frames for wakeup */
 	__pad_after_uframe __pad4;
 };
 
+/* buggy mmap control definition for 2.0.15 PCM API on 32bit mode */
+struct __snd_pcm_mmap_control64_api_2_0_15 {
+	__pad_before_u32 __pad1;
+	__u32 appl_ptr;
+	__pad_before_u32 __pad2;	/* SiC! here is the bug */
+	__pad_before_u32 __pad3;
+	__u32 avail_min;
+	__pad_after_uframe __pad4;
+};
+
 struct __snd_pcm_sync_ptr64 {
 	__u32 flags;
 	__u32 pad1;
@@ -586,6 +601,7 @@ struct __snd_pcm_sync_ptr64 {
 	} s;
 	union {
 		struct __snd_pcm_mmap_control64 control;
+		struct __snd_pcm_mmap_control64_api_2_0_15 control_api_2_0_15;
 		unsigned char reserved[64];
 	} c;
 };
diff --git a/src/pcm/pcm_hw.c b/src/pcm/pcm_hw.c
index b3f9d1579d29..bb97b7ecf5ca 100644
--- a/src/pcm/pcm_hw.c
+++ b/src/pcm/pcm_hw.c
@@ -94,6 +94,7 @@ typedef struct {
 
 	volatile struct snd_pcm_mmap_status * mmap_status;
 	struct snd_pcm_mmap_control *mmap_control;
+	snd_pcm_uframes_t *avail_min_p;
 	bool mmap_status_fallbacked;
 	bool mmap_control_fallbacked;
 	struct snd_pcm_sync_ptr *sync_ptr;
@@ -507,7 +508,7 @@ static int snd_pcm_hw_sw_params(snd_pcm_t *pcm, snd_pcm_sw_params_t * params)
 	    params->silence_threshold == pcm->silence_threshold &&
 	    params->silence_size == pcm->silence_size &&
 	    old_period_event == hw->period_event) {
-		hw->mmap_control->avail_min = params->avail_min;
+		*hw->avail_min_p = params->avail_min;
 		err = issue_avail_min(hw);
 		goto out;
 	}
@@ -540,7 +541,7 @@ static int snd_pcm_hw_sw_params(snd_pcm_t *pcm, snd_pcm_sw_params_t * params)
 		}
 		pcm->tstamp_type = params->tstamp_type;
 	}
-	hw->mmap_control->avail_min = params->avail_min;
+	*hw->avail_min_p = params->avail_min;
 	if (hw->period_event != old_period_event) {
 		err = snd_pcm_hw_change_timer(pcm, old_period_event);
 		if (err < 0)
@@ -980,6 +981,14 @@ static bool map_control_data(snd_pcm_hw_t *hw,
 	}
 
 	hw->mmap_control = mmap_control;
+	hw->avail_min_p = &mmap_control->avail_min;
+#ifdef __SND_STRUCT_TIME64
+	if (hw->version == SNDRV_PROTOCOL_VERSION(2, 0, 15)) {
+		struct __snd_pcm_mmap_control64_api_2_0_15 *buggy_control =
+			(struct __snd_pcm_mmap_control64_api_2_0_15 *)mmap_control;
+		hw->avail_min_p = &buggy_control->avail_min;
+	}
+#endif
 
 	return fallbacked;
 }
@@ -1015,7 +1024,7 @@ static int map_status_and_control_data(snd_pcm_t *pcm, bool force_fallback)
 	if (!(pcm->mode & SND_PCM_APPEND)) {
 		/* Initialize the data. */
 		hw->mmap_control->appl_ptr = 0;
-		hw->mmap_control->avail_min = 1;
+		*hw->avail_min_p = 1;
 	}
 	snd_pcm_set_hw_ptr(pcm, &hw->mmap_status->hw_ptr, hw->fd,
 			   SNDRV_PCM_MMAP_OFFSET_STATUS +

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     [not found]         ` <s5hee8x9f92.wl-tiwai@suse.de>
2021-10-07 13:11           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-10-07 15:33             ` Takashi Iwai
2021-10-07 16:06               ` Rich Felker
2021-10-07 16:18                 ` Takashi Iwai
2021-10-07 16:51                   ` Rich Felker
2021-10-08  8:43                     ` Takashi Iwai
2021-10-08  8:44                       ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2021-10-08  9:24                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-10-08 11:11                         ` Takashi Iwai
2021-10-08 11:45                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-10-08 11:53                             ` Takashi Iwai
2021-10-08 12:13                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-10-08 12:07                           ` Rich Felker
2021-10-10  7:53                             ` Takashi Iwai
2021-10-18 14:43                               ` Rich Felker
2021-10-18 14:58                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2021-10-18 15:08                                   ` Rich Felker
2021-10-18 15:26                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-10-18 20:42                                       ` Rich Felker
2021-10-19 14:16                                         ` Rich Felker
2021-10-19 14:23                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-10-08 12:06                         ` Rich Felker
2021-10-08 12:37                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-10-08 17:20                             ` Rich Felker

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