[NTG-context] typearea

[NTG-context] typearea

[Thomas Meyer]

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Hi,
I'm new to ConTeXt and try to use the module typearea 
(https://modules.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/module.cgi/action=find/name=typearea).
But the example doesn't work:

\usemodule[typearea]
\setupTypeArea[bcor=0mm,alphabets=3.1]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\starttext
\dorecurse4{\framed[width=\textwidth,height=\textheight]{test}\page}
\stoptext

I got:

texmf-dist/tex/context/third/typearea/t-typearea.tex'
loading         > Something like KOMA-TypeArea
tex error       > tex error on line 89 in file 
/usr/local/texlive/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/third/typearea/t-typearea.tex: 
Missing number, treated as zero



<to be read again>

     {
<macro> \TA@alphabets
      \par \PageWidth =\dimexpr \paperwidth -\TA@bcor \relax \par \edef 
\Ratio {\withoutpt {
     \the \dimexpr 2\paperheight /(\PageWidth /32768)\relax }} \par 
\setbox \scratchbox \hbox {\dorecurse {26}{\character \recurselevel }} 
\Width =\dimexpr \TA@alphabet
<line 5.89>
     \setupTypeArea[bcor=0pt,oneside=no,alphabets=2.6]

79          height=\the\Height,
80          width=\the\Width,
81          header=2\lineheight,
82          headerdistance=\lineheight,
83          footer=2\lineheight,
84          footerdistance=3\lineheight,
85          topspace=\Top]
86     }
87     \protect
88
89 >>  \setupTypeArea[bcor=0pt,oneside=no,alphabets=2.6]
90
91     \doifnotmode{demo}{\endinput}
92
93     %D Usage example:
94     \usemodule[typearea]
95     \setupTypeArea[bcor=0mm,alphabets=3.1]
96     \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
97     \starttext
98 \dorecurse4{\framed[width=\textwidth,height=\textheight]{test}\page}
99     \stoptext
A number should have been here; I inserted '0'. (If you can't figure out 
why I
needed to see a number, look up 'weird error' in the index to The TeXbook.)
mtx-context     | fatal error: return code: 1


Line 89 in the module should be the problem. But how can I solve it? I 
think some lines in the module should be commented out. (An example 
directly in the module?)

I thank you for any hint.

Greetings
Thomas

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[NTG-context] Re: typearea

[Thomas Meyer]

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Oh, I found something about in the archive!

Am 29.10.23 um 11:37 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
> Hi,
> I'm new to ConTeXt and try to use the module typearea 
> (https://modules.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/module.cgi/action=find/name=typearea).
> But the example doesn't work:
>
> \usemodule[typearea]
> \setupTypeArea[bcor=0mm,alphabets=3.1]
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
> \starttext
> \dorecurse4{\framed[width=\textwidth,height=\textheight]{test}\page}
> \stoptext
>
> I got:
>
> texmf-dist/tex/context/third/typearea/t-typearea.tex'
> loading         > Something like KOMA-TypeArea
> tex error       > tex error on line 89 in file 
> /usr/local/texlive/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/third/typearea/t-typearea.tex: 
> Missing number, treated as zero
>
>
>
> <to be read again>
>
>     {
> <macro> \TA@alphabets
>      \par \PageWidth =\dimexpr \paperwidth -\TA@bcor \relax \par \edef 
> \Ratio {\withoutpt {
>     \the \dimexpr 2\paperheight /(\PageWidth /32768)\relax }} \par 
> \setbox \scratchbox \hbox {\dorecurse {26}{\character \recurselevel }} 
> \Width =\dimexpr \TA@alphabet
> <line 5.89>
>     \setupTypeArea[bcor=0pt,oneside=no,alphabets=2.6]
>
> 79          height=\the\Height,
> 80          width=\the\Width,
> 81          header=2\lineheight,
> 82          headerdistance=\lineheight,
> 83          footer=2\lineheight,
> 84          footerdistance=3\lineheight,
> 85          topspace=\Top]
> 86     }
> 87     \protect
> 88
> 89 >>  \setupTypeArea[bcor=0pt,oneside=no,alphabets=2.6]
> 90
> 91     \doifnotmode{demo}{\endinput}
> 92
> 93     %D Usage example:
> 94     \usemodule[typearea]
> 95     \setupTypeArea[bcor=0mm,alphabets=3.1]
> 96     \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
> 97     \starttext
> 98 \dorecurse4{\framed[width=\textwidth,height=\textheight]{test}\page}
> 99     \stoptext
> A number should have been here; I inserted '0'. (If you can't figure 
> out why I
> needed to see a number, look up 'weird error' in the index to The 
> TeXbook.)
> mtx-context     | fatal error: return code: 1
>
>
> Line 89 in the module should be the problem. But how can I solve it? I 
> think some lines in the module should be commented out. (An example 
> directly in the module?)
>
> I thank you for any hint.
>
> Greetings
> Thomas
>
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[NTG-context] Re: typearea

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 29.10.23 um 11:37 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
> Hi,
> I'm new to ConTeXt and try to use the module typearea 
> (https://modules.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/module.cgi/action=find/name=typearea).
> But the example doesn't work:

The module is from 2008, i.e. MkII. You can’t expect it to work with 
MkIV/LMTX.
Just define your layout yourself.

Hraban

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[NTG-context] Re: typearea

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 29.10.2023 um 12:13:
> Am 29.10.23 um 11:37 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
>> Hi,
>> I'm new to ConTeXt and try to use the module typearea 
>> (https://modules.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/module.cgi/action=find/name=typearea). 
>>
>> But the example doesn't work:
>
> The module is from 2008, i.e. MkII. You can’t expect it to work with 
> MkIV/LMTX.
> Just define your layout yourself.

You can use the \averagecharwidth length to set the text width to a certain
number of characters per line but for now only only a few languages
are supported.

\mainlanguage[en]

\setuplayout
   [width=60\averagecharwidth]

\starttext
\samplefile{lorem}
\stoptext

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Re: typearea

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Sun, 29 Oct 2023, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

> Am 29.10.23 um 11:37 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
> > Hi,
> > I'm new to ConTeXt and try to use the module typearea
> > (https://modules.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/module.cgi/action=find/name=typearea).
> > But the example doesn't work:
> 
> The module is from 2008, i.e. MkII. You can’t expect it to work with
> MkIV/LMTX.

Perhaps one option can be to ask module authors to rename mkii only modules to t-*.mkii, so that they are not loaded in mkiv/lmtx. 

Aditya

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[NTG-context] Re: typearea

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 01.11.23 um 22:47 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2023, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> 
>> Am 29.10.23 um 11:37 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm new to ConTeXt and try to use the module typearea
>>> (https://modules.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/module.cgi/action=find/name=typearea).
>>> But the example doesn't work:
>>
>> The module is from 2008, i.e. MkII. You can’t expect it to work with
>> MkIV/LMTX.
> 
> Perhaps one option can be to ask module authors to rename mkii only modules to t-*.mkii, so that they are not loaded in mkiv/lmtx.

As a module admin I could and would do that for this old stuff, there 
are more fixes that I’d like to apply, but we’re still waiting for a 
replacement for the Lioness server, if I’m not wrong.

Hraban

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[NTG-context] Re: typearea

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/1/2023 10:47 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2023, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> 
>> Am 29.10.23 um 11:37 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm new to ConTeXt and try to use the module typearea
>>> (https://modules.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/module.cgi/action=find/name=typearea).
>>> But the example doesn't work:
>>
>> The module is from 2008, i.e. MkII. You can’t expect it to work with
>> MkIV/LMTX.
> 
> Perhaps one option can be to ask module authors to rename mkii only modules to t-*.mkii, so that they are not loaded in mkiv/lmtx.
a good idea

Hans

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[NTG-context] Re: typearea

[Thomas Meyer]

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Hi,
first of all, sorry for my late response.
Many thanks to everyone who commented on my problem.
With the change from the archive the module runs, also under LMTX.
But: what does alphabets=3.1 or alphabets=2.6 mean? I see what is 
happening, but where can I get explanations about this and other terms?
Thanks in advance!

Regards
Thomas

Am 29.10.23 um 12:13 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
> Am 29.10.23 um 11:37 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
>> Hi,
>> I'm new to ConTeXt and try to use the module typearea 
>> (https://modules.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/module.cgi/action=find/name=typearea).
>> But the example doesn't work:
>
> The module is from 2008, i.e. MkII. You can’t expect it to work with 
> MkIV/LMTX.
> Just define your layout yourself.
>
> Hraban
>
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> (mirror)
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>

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