To update or not to update - that is the question...

To update or not to update - that is the question...

[Marcin Borkowski]

Hi all,

I have an issue with \overrightarrow being positioned under its
argument.  I've read on the list that this is now fixed, but...  I
can't upgrade!  This is because I'm preparing a document in an
"incremental" way, that is, I'm preparing course materials (problem
sets) for the next class each week and giving them away to students.
If I upgrade, the pagebreaks change (probably due to some tweaking Hans
added to multicolumn itemgroups a few months ago).  So what would you
suggest? I can see at least three solutions, none of which is ideal for
me.

1. Manually backport the fix to my ConTeXt.  Pro: ideal solution (at
least for now).  Con: no idea how to do it - I don't know how to
access ConTeXt repository (if it's at all possible for a non-developer).

2. Upgrade and insert some manual pagebreaks so that pages 21-22 (which
I'm currently working on) contain the same problems as they used to.
Pro: easy fix.  Con: very dirty trick, and what if someone asks me
about some old problems, because he lost his copy?

3. Just use \vec instead of \overrightarrow.  Pro: very easy, no dirty
hacks.  Con: ugly looking (see: \vec{AB}).

Any ideas?  Is it possible to find the official ConTeXt repo somewhere,
or if not, maybe someone could send me the diff of the commit which
fixed that (this post:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/79011 suggests that it
is the 2012.10.30 21:13 commit)?

Regards,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University
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Re: To update or not to update - that is the question...

[Hans Hagen]

On 3/2/2013 1:11 AM, Marcin Borkowski wrote:

> I have an issue with \overrightarrow being positioned under its
> argument.  I've read on the list that this is now fixed, but...  I
> can't upgrade!  This is because I'm preparing a document in an
> "incremental" way, that is, I'm preparing course materials (problem
> sets) for the next class each week and giving them away to students.
> If I upgrade, the pagebreaks change (probably due to some tweaking Hans
> added to multicolumn itemgroups a few months ago).  So what would you
> suggest? I can see at least three solutions, none of which is ideal for
> me.

No clue when you updated ..

> 1. Manually backport the fix to my ConTeXt.  Pro: ideal solution (at
> least for now).  Con: no idea how to do it - I don't know how to
> access ConTeXt repository (if it's at all possible for a non-developer).

You could try to backport but be warned that the arrow macros have been 
changed because of more possibilities in the open type fonts (so there 
is a relationship with fonts too).

> 2. Upgrade and insert some manual pagebreaks so that pages 21-22 (which
> I'm currently working on) contain the same problems as they used to.
> Pro: easy fix.  Con: very dirty trick, and what if someone asks me
> about some old problems, because he lost his copy?

Why don't you use version numbers and store pdf files? After all, it's 
quite normal that educational materials get updated. Also, use 
references to numbers instead of pages.

The recent reimplementation of arrows was stand-alone and the old 
math-arr.mkiv code is still there so you can try to load that file.

> 3. Just use \vec instead of \overrightarrow.  Pro: very easy, no dirty
> hacks.  Con: ugly looking (see: \vec{AB}).

> Any ideas?  Is it possible to find the official ConTeXt repo somewhere,
> or if not, maybe someone could send me the diff of the commit which
> fixed that (this post:
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/79011 suggests that it
> is the 2012.10.30 21:13 commit)?

I don't know if Mojca still keeps old betas and checks them in in her 
public git repos.

Hans

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Re: To update or not to update - that is the question...

[Marco Patzer]

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On 2013–03–02 Marcin Borkowski wrote:

> Is it possible to find the official ConTeXt repo somewhere,

There is no official repo. But you can use

  git://gitorious.org/context/context.git

Marco

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Re: To update or not to update - that is the question...

[Marcin Borkowski]

Dnia 2013-03-02, o godz. 11:29:09
Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> napisał(a):

> On 3/2/2013 1:11 AM, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
> > 2. Upgrade and insert some manual pagebreaks so that pages 21-22
> > (which I'm currently working on) contain the same problems as they
> > used to. Pro: easy fix.  Con: very dirty trick, and what if someone
> > asks me about some old problems, because he lost his copy?
> 
> Why don't you use version numbers and store pdf files? After all,
> it's quite normal that educational materials get updated. Also, use 
> references to numbers instead of pages.

Well, it's a bit complicated.  Assume that I have problems for classes
1-3, they end on page 5.  Then I'd like to prepare problems for class
4, they should start half the page 5 etc.

Still, the course is almost over, so basically the problem
disappeared;).  Thanks for the answer anyway!

Best,

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http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University
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Re: To update or not to update - that is the question...

[Marcin Borkowski]

Dnia 2013-03-02, o godz. 12:04:50
Marco Patzer <homerow@lavabit.com> napisał(a):

> On 2013–03–02 Marcin Borkowski wrote:
> 
> > Is it possible to find the official ConTeXt repo somewhere,
> 
> There is no official repo. But you can use
> 
>   git://gitorious.org/context/context.git
> 
> Marco

Thanks!

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Adam Mickiewicz University
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Re: To update or not to update - that is the question...

[Jonathan Barchi]

Just curious, does this repo stay up to date the the "official"
updates from garden?

I've been using (basically) the scripts suggested on the "minimals"
wiki page to update when new betas are released, but it would be great
to be able to this with git instead.

Thanks!
Jon


On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> wrote:
> Dnia 2013-03-02, o godz. 12:04:50
> Marco Patzer <homerow@lavabit.com> napisał(a):
>
>> On 2013–03–02 Marcin Borkowski wrote:
>>
>> > Is it possible to find the official ConTeXt repo somewhere,
>>
>> There is no official repo. But you can use
>>
>>   git://gitorious.org/context/context.git
>>
>> Marco
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Marcin Borkowski
> http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
> Adam Mickiewicz University
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Re: To update or not to update - that is the question...

[Marco Patzer]

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On 2013–03–17 Jonathan Barchi wrote:

> Just curious, does this repo stay up to date the the "official"
> updates from garden?

I assume that's the goal of the repo, but there is no guarantee that
it does.

> I've been using (basically) the scripts suggested on the "minimals"
> wiki page to update when new betas are released, but it would be great
> to be able to this with git instead.

The minimals (or Standalone distribution) contain more than just
that repository. Among other things it provides the binaries, an
update mechanism, fonts, third-party modules and MetaPost modules.
Check your context directory, the repo provides the contents of
texmf-context.

Sure, you can take a current Standalone distribution and replace the
shipped texmf-context with the git repo (which is very handy for
testing and bisecting BTW) but it's not usable for production and
will break after a while. If the other files (especially LuaTeX and
3rd party modules) get out of sync you'll run into errors no one
else can reproduce.

Marco

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