* [NTG-context] Unknown units es and dk @ 2024-03-23 12:57 Jan Ulrich Hasecke via ntg-context 2024-03-23 13:27 ` [NTG-context] " Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Jan Ulrich Hasecke via ntg-context @ 2024-03-23 12:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Jan Ulrich Hasecke I saw this in (the btw great) bachotex-stepbystep presentation \definepapersize [example] [width=8.5es, height=11es] \setuptextbackground [location=paragraph, backgroundcolor=MyColors:4, backgroundoffset=1dk, frame=off] The units "es" and "dk" are unknown to me. What does they mean? TIA juh ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: Unknown units es and dk 2024-03-23 12:57 [NTG-context] Unknown units es and dk Jan Ulrich Hasecke via ntg-context @ 2024-03-23 13:27 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2024-03-23 18:05 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2024-03-23 13:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Jan Ulrich Hasecke via ntg-context Jan Ulrich Hasecke via ntg-context schrieb am 23.03.2024 um 13:57: > I saw this in (the btw great) bachotex-stepbystep presentation > > \definepapersize > [example] > [width=8.5es, > height=11es] > > > \setuptextbackground > [location=paragraph, > backgroundcolor=MyColors:4, > backgroundoffset=1dk, > frame=off] > > > The units "es" and "dk" are unknown to me. > What does they mean? Regarding the dk unit: https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb42-3/tb132hagen-dk.pdf A quote from the Luametatex source regarding the es unit: The Edith and Tove were introduced at BachoTeX 2023 and because the error message was still in feet we decided to adapt it accordingly so now in addition it reports different values, including Theodores little feet measured by Arthur as being roughly five Ediths. Here is the fitting error message when you pass a dimension too large for TeX: Dimension too large", I can't work with sizes bigger than about 19 feet (45 Theodores as of 2023), 575 centimeters, Toves, 230 Ediths or 16383 points. Continue and I'll use the largest value I can. You should also take a look at the lowlevel register manual (lowlevel-registers.pdf) which explains how you can define your own units. Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: Unknown units es and dk 2024-03-23 13:27 ` [NTG-context] " Wolfgang Schuster @ 2024-03-23 18:05 ` Hans Hagen 2024-03-23 19:31 ` Hraban Ramm 2024-03-24 8:29 ` Jan Ulrich Hasecke via ntg-context 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2024-03-23 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 3/23/2024 2:27 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > Jan Ulrich Hasecke via ntg-context schrieb am 23.03.2024 um 13:57: >> I saw this in (the btw great) bachotex-stepbystep presentation >> >> \definepapersize >> [example] >> [width=8.5es, >> height=11es] >> >> >> \setuptextbackground >> [location=paragraph, >> backgroundcolor=MyColors:4, >> backgroundoffset=1dk, >> frame=off] >> >> >> The units "es" and "dk" are unknown to me. >> What does they mean? > > Regarding the dk unit: https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb42-3/tb132hagen-dk.pdf The es, ts and eu are discussed here: https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb44-2/tb137egger-edith.pdf it also discusses how the team callibrated these units by sampling texies. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: Unknown units es and dk 2024-03-23 18:05 ` Hans Hagen @ 2024-03-23 19:31 ` Hraban Ramm 2024-03-24 9:40 ` Hans Hagen 2024-03-24 8:29 ` Jan Ulrich Hasecke via ntg-context 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Hraban Ramm @ 2024-03-23 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Am 23.03.24 um 19:05 schrieb Hans Hagen: > On 3/23/2024 2:27 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: >> Regarding the dk unit: https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb42-3/tb132hagen-dk.pdf > The es, ts and eu are discussed here: > > https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb44-2/tb137egger-edith.pdf In German, I call these "Spaßeinheiten" (units of measurement = "Maßeinheiten"; Spaß = fun; "units of leisurement" might be a good translation). Hraban ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: Unknown units es and dk 2024-03-23 19:31 ` Hraban Ramm @ 2024-03-24 9:40 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2024-03-24 9:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 3/23/2024 8:31 PM, Hraban Ramm wrote: > > Am 23.03.24 um 19:05 schrieb Hans Hagen: >> On 3/23/2024 2:27 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: >>> Regarding the dk unit: https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb42-3/tb132hagen-dk.pdf >> The es, ts and eu are discussed here: >> >> https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb44-2/tb137egger-edith.pdf > > In German, I call these "Spaßeinheiten" (units of measurement = > "Maßeinheiten"; Spaß = fun; "units of leisurement" might be a good > translation). Apart from being fun they are also useful, for instance the "ts" (and dk) make good framed offsets when making examples. Of the "serious" unit is only use pt, mm and cm (and bp in the backend). Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: Unknown units es and dk 2024-03-23 18:05 ` Hans Hagen 2024-03-23 19:31 ` Hraban Ramm @ 2024-03-24 8:29 ` Jan Ulrich Hasecke via ntg-context 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Jan Ulrich Hasecke via ntg-context @ 2024-03-24 8:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context; +Cc: Jan Ulrich Hasecke Am 23.03.24 um 19:05 schrieb Hans Hagen: > The es, ts and eu are discussed here: > > https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb44-2/tb137egger-edith.pdf > > it also discusses how the team callibrated these units by sampling > texies. > Ah, I see. :-) Thanks juh ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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