Table

Table

[Ursula Hermann via ntg-context]

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I'd like to do a Table lik this one
[enter image description here]
I have no example. How can I do that?

Many thanks
Uschi

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Re: Table

[Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context]

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Hi Uschi,

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 1:03 PM Ursula Hermann via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> I’d like to do a Table lik this one
>
> [image: enter image description here]
>
> I have no example. How can I do that?
>
>
>
> Many thanks
>
> Uschi
>

There are probably better ways, but this seems to give something like what
you look for:

\starttext

\setupTABLE[c][align=middle]
\setupTABLE[c][odd][width=2em]
\setupTABLE[c][even][width=1mm]
\setupTABLE[r][2][height=1mm]
\setupTABLE[c][1][leftframe=off]
\setupTABLE[c][5][rightframe=off]

\bTABLE
\bTR
\bTD 1 \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD \eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD 4 \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD 5 \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD 6 \eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD 7 \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD 8 \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD 9 \eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE

\stoptext

/Mikael

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Re: Table

[Ursula Hermann via ntg-context]

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Dear Mikael!

Many thanks, that works great!

Uschi

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Cc: Mikael Sundqvist <mickep@gmail.com>
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Table

Hi Uschi,

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 1:03 PM Ursula Hermann via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote:
I’d like to do a Table lik this one
[enter image description here]
I have no example. How can I do that?

Many thanks
Uschi

There are probably better ways, but this seems to give something like what you look for:

\starttext

\setupTABLE[c][align=middle]
\setupTABLE[c][odd][width=2em]
\setupTABLE[c][even][width=1mm]
\setupTABLE[r][2][height=1mm]
\setupTABLE[c][1][leftframe=off]
\setupTABLE[c][5][rightframe=off]

\bTABLE
  \bTR
    \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD
  \eTR
  \bTR
    \bTD   \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD   \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD   \eTD
  \eTR
  \bTR
    \bTD 4 \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD 5 \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD 6 \eTD
  \eTR
  \bTR
    \bTD 7 \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD 8 \eTD \bTD \eTD \bTD 9 \eTD
  \eTR
\eTABLE

\stoptext

/Mikael

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Re: Table

["H. Özoguz"]

> Do minipages support page breaks? And floats?
>
> Did you try this:
> http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2012/068387.html  ?

No, they do not, but this was ok for that bilingual project.

No, I did not try this solution, and to be honest: I hope not to have, 
because it seems too complicated for me to implement it. I usually only 
work with .tex files in ConText, nothing more. But maybe, if there is no 
other way, I have to come back to that. Thanks for the info.

Huseyin
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Re: Table

[Peter Münster]

On Fri, May 03 2013, H. Özoguz wrote:

> One thing to add: In LaTex I realized this with minipages:
>
> This sets very well the german and the arabic text, with different
> interlinespaces. Is there a possibility to copy this into ConText?

Do minipages support page breaks? And floats?

Did you try this:
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2012/068387.html ?

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Re: Table

["H. Özoguz"]

> Why don’t you use natural tables where each cell *is a frame*.

Ah, ok Wolfgang. I did not get this at your first posting. I will try it!

Huseyin.
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Re: Table

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> Why don't you use natural tables where each cell *is a frame*.

Ah, ok Wolfgang. I did not get at with your first post. I will try it!

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Re: Table

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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Am 03.05.2013 um 12:39 schrieb "H. Özoguz" <h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de>:

> Thanks.
> 
>> You can use \framed but like a minipage no page breaks are possible in a block.
>> 
>> > This sets very well the german and the arabic text, with different interlinespaces. Is there a possibility to copy this into ConText?
>> 
>> You can use natural tables (or xtables) and use the loffset and roffset keys for
>> margins between both columns. You can also hide the table commands in your
>> own macros for the texts.
> 
> Maybe the minipages/frames are really the only possibility, so that I have to resign page-breaking, sad, but if this is the only way... Because without different line-interspaces the arabic text is definitely not well readable.     

Why don’t you use natural tables where each cell *is a frame*.

> Now I tried it with frames; this is my try (from the wiki):
> 
> \starttext
> \startcombination[2*1]
> {\framed
>    [width=4cm,
>     align={flushleft}]
>    {\input ward }}
> {\framed
>    [width=4cm,
>     align={flushleft,nothyphenated,verytolerant}] % maybe also stretch
>    {\tfb \input ward }}
> \stopcombination
> \stoptext
> 
> But it seems to not matter, if I write 2*1 or 1*2, in both cases the frames are set one below the other, and not side by side (what I want). Why?

Each entry in combination consists a the content and the caption but in your example the first frame is the content and the second the caption.

When you want two things side by side you can use \placesidebyside{…}{…}.

Wolfgang

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Re: Table

["H. Özoguz"]

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Thanks.

> You can use \framed but like a minipage no page breaks are possible in a block.
>
> >/  This sets very well the german and the arabic text, with different interlinespaces. Is there a possibility to copy this into ConText?
> /
> You can use natural tables (or xtables) and use the loffset and roffset keys for
> margins between both columns. You can also hide the table commands in your
> own macros for the texts.

Maybe the minipages/frames are really the only possibility, so that I 
have to resign page-breaking, sad, but if this is the only way... 
Because without different line-interspaces the arabic text is definitely 
not well readable.

Now I tried it with frames; this is my try (from the wiki):

\starttext
\startcombination[2*1]
{\framed
    [width=4cm,
     align={flushleft}]
    {\input ward }}
{\framed
    [width=4cm,
     align={flushleft,nothyphenated,verytolerant}] % maybe also stretch
    {\tfb \input ward }}
\stopcombination
\stoptext

But it seems to not matter, if I write 2*1 or 1*2, in both cases the 
frames are set one below the other, and not side by side (what I want). Why?

Huseyin

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Re: Table

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 03.05.2013 um 11:54 schrieb "H. Özoguz" <h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de>:

> One thing to add: In LaTex I realized this with minipages:
> 
> \newcommand{\kum}[2]{
> 
> \begin{minipage}[t]{0.445\textwidth} \small
> 
> #1
> 
> \end{minipage}
> 
> \begin{minipage}[t]{0.05\textwidth}
> 
> ~
> 
> \end{minipage}
> 
> \begin{minipage}[t]{0.445\textwidth}
> 
> \begin{arab}[voc]
> 
> \raggedleft
> 
> #2
> 
> \end{arab}
> 
> \end{minipage}
> 
> \begin{minipage}[t]{0.06\textwidth}
> 
> ~
> 
> \end{minipage}
> 
> }

You can use \framed but like a minipage no page breaks are possible in a block.

> This sets very well the german and the arabic text, with different interlinespaces. Is there a possibility to copy this into ConText?

You can use natural tables (or xtables) and use the loffset and roffset keys for
margins between both columns. You can also hide the table commands in your
own macros for the texts.

Wolfgang
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Re: Table

["H. Özoguz"]

One thing to add: In LaTex I realized this with minipages:

\newcommand{\kum}[2]{

\begin{minipage}[t]{0.445\textwidth} \small

#1

\end{minipage}

\begin{minipage}[t]{0.05\textwidth}

~

\end{minipage}

\begin{minipage}[t]{0.445\textwidth}

\begin{arab}[voc]

\raggedleft

#2

\end{arab}

\end{minipage}

\begin{minipage}[t]{0.06\textwidth}

~

\end{minipage}

}


This sets very well the german and the arabic text, with different 
interlinespaces. Is there a possibility to copy this into ConText?

Huseyin


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Re: Table

["H. Özoguz"]

Thanks Wolfgang!
But now I see a different issue arising: The left and the right column 
are set on the same lines (like grid-setting, not the same). I mean, 
that the text in the left column is set on the same lines, like the text 
in the right columns. Usually that is good, but not for my purpose, 
because arabic is very different, has long letters. So for the arabic 
text the interlinespace should be bigger, than for the german text. Is 
that possible with a table?

An example:

\starttext

\starttabulate[|lp|rp|]

\NC \input knuth

\NC \dorecurse{20}{\tfc Blub}

\NC\NR

\stoptabulate

\stoptext


And this exactly, what happens with arabic. The only other possibility 
would be to set the arabic font very small, but that would be not very 
well readable.

Huseyin.
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Re: Table

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 03.05.2013 um 10:52 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com>:

> The space between the columns can be controlled by the i, j or k keywords which accepts a number or a dimension as argument.
> 
> %  i  i<n> skip left of column
> %  j  i<n> skip right of column
> %  k  i<n> skip around column

I’m sorry but the keys accept only a number which uses the values of \setuptabulate[unit=<dimension>]

\starttext

\starttabulate[|l|l|]
\VL Left column \VL Right Column \VL\NR
\stoptabulate

\starttabulate[|i1l|l|]
\VL Left column \VL Right Column \VL\NR
\stoptabulate

\starttabulate[|j1l|l|]
\VL Left column \VL Right Column \VL\NR
\stoptabulate

\starttabulate[|k1l|l|]
\VL Left column \VL Right Column \VL\NR
\stoptabulate

\blank[2cm]

\starttabulate[|l|l|]
\VL Left column \VL Right Column \VL\NR
\stoptabulate

\starttabulate[|l|l|][unit=2cm]
\VL Left column \VL Right Column \VL\NR
\stoptabulate

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: Table

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 03.05.2013 um 10:39 schrieb H. Özoguz <h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de>:

> Hi,
> 
> for a bilingual book (german-arabic) I want to use a table. So far I have this one:
> 
> \starttabulate[||p(.46\textwidth)|p(.46\textwidth)||]
> 
> But that is not exactly, what I want: I want a table with 3 columns. The left one ist left-aligned, for the german text (left-algined in the usual sence, I understood that these terms are opposite in context?), the middle one is empty (just to control the space between the to text-columns), and the right columns, arabic, is right aligned.
> 
> I want to control all three by something like ".46\textwidth", and no indentation (like the above result, left column is indented). How to achieve this (simple) table? My tries did not work so far.

\showframe[text][text]

\starttext

\starttabulate[|lp|rp|]
\NC \input knuth \NC \input tufte \NC\NR
\stoptabulate

\stoptext

The space between the columns can be controlled by the i, j or k keywords which accepts a number or a dimension as argument.

%  i  i<n> skip left of column
%  j  i<n> skip right of column
%  k  i<n> skip around column

Wolfgang
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Table

["H. Özoguz"]

Hi,

for a bilingual book (german-arabic) I want to use a table. So far I 
have this one:

\starttabulate[||p(.46\textwidth)|p(.46\textwidth)||]

But that is not exactly, what I want: I want a table with 3 columns. The 
left one ist left-aligned, for the german text (left-algined in the 
usual sence, I understood that these terms are opposite in context?), 
the middle one is empty (just to control the space between the to 
text-columns), and the right columns, arabic, is right aligned.

I want to control all three by something like ".46\textwidth", and no 
indentation (like the above result, left column is indented). How to 
achieve this (simple) table? My tries did not work so far.

Huseyin
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Re: TABLE

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Wolfgang,

 > \placetable
>     {Caption}
>     {\bTABLE
>      ...
>      \eTABLE}

BUT I have a Long split=repeat table and when I use {} the table passes the
end of the page. If I remove {} it splits properly but then I have no
caption.

What to do?

barney

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Re: TABLE

[Jörg Hagmann]

On 12/6/10 3:41 PM, barndog1946@gmail.com wrote:
> search TABLE on the wiki, it is FULL of info
Now it is.
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Re: TABLE

[Jörg Hagmann]

Thank you, Aditya and Wolfgang. I put the information on the wiki where 
I would have expected it.
Jörg

On 12/6/10 3:24 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 06.12.2010 um 15:19 schrieb Jörg Hagmann:
>
>> Trying to use TABLE instead of \starttables...
>>
>> How does one place a TABLE, with a caption?
> \placetable
>     {Caption}
>     {\bTABLE
>      ...
>      \eTABLE}
>
> Wolfgang
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Re: TABLE

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Jorg,

\placetable should do the trick.

I had similar question earlier.

search TABLE on the wiki, it is FULL of info

barney

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Re: TABLE

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 06.12.2010 um 15:19 schrieb Jörg Hagmann:

> Trying to use TABLE instead of \starttables...
> 
> How does one place a TABLE, with a caption?

\placetable
   {Caption}
   {\bTABLE
    ...
    \eTABLE}

Wolfgang

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TABLE

[Jörg Hagmann]

Trying to use TABLE instead of \starttables...

How does one place a TABLE, with a caption?

Thanks, Jörg
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Re: TABLE

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Jörg Hagmann wrote:

> Trying to use TABLE instead of \starttables...
>
> How does one place a TABLE, with a caption?

\placetable
   [here,top,bottom]
   [tab:ref]
   {caption}
   {\bTABLE
    ...
    \eTABLE}

Aditya

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Re: Table

[Hans Hagen]

At 08:57 AM 3/7/2002 +0000, Nigel King wrote:
>Using the \bTABLE....\eTABLE macros what is the command for aligning a row
>at the bottom of the line?
>
>I was guessing \setupTABLE[row][1][align=bottom] but that does not work. I
>then tried to assemble the documentation but had problems see separate mail.
>(documents).

TYhe most minimal example i can come up with is:

\bTABLE
\bTR \bTD x \\ x \eTD \bTD[align=low] x \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE

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Table

[Nigel King]

Using the \bTABLE....\eTABLE macros what is the command for aligning a row
at the bottom of the line?

I was guessing \setupTABLE[row][1][align=bottom] but that does not work. I
then tried to assemble the documentation but had problems see separate mail.
(documents).
-- 
Nigel