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* [NTG-context] Using the open source Cabin font
@ 2023-06-16 13:05 Gerben Wierda via ntg-context
  2023-06-16 13:19 ` Gerben Wierda via ntg-context
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Gerben Wierda via ntg-context @ 2023-06-16 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I've been trying to use the open source Cabin font (https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Cabin <https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Cabin>) like this:

\definefontfamily
    [archimate]
    [ss]
    [Cabin]
    [tf=style:Regular,
     bf=style:Semibold,
     it=style:Italic,
     bi=style:Semibold Italic]
\setupbodyfont[archimate]

\setuplanguage[en][patterns={en}]\mainlanguage[en]

\starttext
\setupindenting[none]
\setupindenting[no]
{\bf The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog}

\input knuth
\stoptext

But when compiling I get no bold text

I installed it in LMTX and it has been installed:

gerben@hermione% mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern='*abin*'     
identifier                  familyname   fontname       filename                                                              subfont   instances

cabinitalic                 cabin        cabinitalic    /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf             italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
cabinitalicbolditalic       cabin        cabinitalic    /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf             italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
cabinitalicitalic           cabin        cabinitalic    /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf             italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
cabinitalicmediumitalic     cabin        cabinitalic    /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf             italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
cabinitalicsemibolditalic   cabin        cabinitalic    /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf             italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
cabinnormal                 cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
cabinregular                cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
cabinregularbold            cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
cabinregularmedium          cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
cabinregularregular         cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
cabinregularsemibold        cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold

What am I missing?

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* Re: [NTG-context] Using the open source Cabin font
  2023-06-16 13:05 [NTG-context] Using the open source Cabin font Gerben Wierda via ntg-context
@ 2023-06-16 13:19 ` Gerben Wierda via ntg-context
  2023-06-16 13:25   ` Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context
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From: Gerben Wierda via ntg-context @ 2023-06-16 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I was wrong, not just the bold doesn't work, everything is replaced with Latin Modern. Cabin isn't used at all.

> On 16 Jun 2023, at 15:05, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> 
> I've been trying to use the open source Cabin font (https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Cabin <https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Cabin>) like this:
> 
> \definefontfamily
>     [archimate]
>     [ss]
>     [Cabin]
>     [tf=style:Regular,
>      bf=style:Semibold,
>      it=style:Italic,
>      bi=style:Semibold Italic]
> \setupbodyfont[archimate]
> 
> \setuplanguage[en][patterns={en}]\mainlanguage[en]
> 
> \starttext
> \setupindenting[none]
> \setupindenting[no]
> {\bf The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog}
> 
> \input knuth
> \stoptext
> 
> But when compiling I get no bold text
> 
> I installed it in LMTX and it has been installed:
> 
> gerben@hermione% mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern='*abin*'     
> identifier                  familyname   fontname       filename                                                              subfont   instances
> 
> cabinitalic                 cabin        cabinitalic    /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf             italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
> cabinitalicbolditalic       cabin        cabinitalic    /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf             italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
> cabinitalicitalic           cabin        cabinitalic    /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf             italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
> cabinitalicmediumitalic     cabin        cabinitalic    /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf             italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
> cabinitalicsemibolditalic   cabin        cabinitalic    /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf             italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
> cabinnormal                 cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
> cabinregular                cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
> cabinregularbold            cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
> cabinregularmedium          cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
> cabinregularregular         cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
> cabinregularsemibold        cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
> 
> What am I missing?
> 
> Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>)
> R&A IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site)
> Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/>
> Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/>
> 
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* Re: [NTG-context] Using the open source Cabin font
  2023-06-16 13:19 ` Gerben Wierda via ntg-context
@ 2023-06-16 13:25   ` Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context
  2023-06-16 13:41     ` Gerben Wierda via ntg-context
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context @ 2023-06-16 13:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerben Wierda via ntg-context; +Cc: Wolfgang Schuster


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Hi Gerben,

can you try the static version of the fonts. When I tried the variable 
width version no files are listed but with the static version I had no 
problems to load the font.

\definefontfamily [archimate] [ss] [Cabin]

\setupbodyfont [archimate]

\starttext
{\bf The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog}

\input knuth
\stoptext

Wolfgang

Gerben Wierda via ntg-context schrieb am 16.06.2023 um 15:19:
> I was wrong, not just the bold doesn't work, /everything/ is replaced 
> with Latin Modern. Cabin isn't used at all.
>
>> On 16 Jun 2023, at 15:05, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context 
>> <ntg-context@ntg.nl <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote:
>>
>> I've been trying to use the open source Cabin font 
>> (https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Cabin) like this:
>>
>> \definefontfamily
>>     [archimate]
>>     [ss]
>>     [Cabin]
>>     [tf=style:Regular,
>>      bf=style:Semibold,
>>      it=style:Italic,
>>      bi=style:Semibold Italic]
>> \setupbodyfont[archimate]
>>
>> \setuplanguage[en][patterns={en}]\mainlanguage[en]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \setupindenting[none]
>> \setupindenting[no]
>> {\bf The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog}
>>
>> \input knuth
>> \stoptext
>>
>> But when compiling I get no bold text
>>
>> I installed it in LMTX and it has been installed:
>>
>> gerben@hermione% mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern='*abin*'
>> identifier                 familyname   fontname       filename       
>>                                     subfont   instances
>>
>> cabinitalic                 cabin        cabinitalic 
>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf   
>>     italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
>> cabinitalicbolditalic       cabin        cabinitalic 
>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf   
>>     italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
>> cabinitalicitalic           cabin        cabinitalic 
>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf   
>>     italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
>> cabinitalicmediumitalic     cabin        cabinitalic 
>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf   
>>     italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
>> cabinitalicsemibolditalic   cabin        cabinitalic 
>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf   
>>     italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
>> cabinnormal                 cabin        cabinregular 
>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf       
>> regular medium semibold bold
>> cabinregular                cabin cabinregular 
>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf       
>> regular medium semibold bold
>> cabinregularbold            cabin cabinregular 
>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf       
>> regular medium semibold bold
>> cabinregularmedium          cabin cabinregular 
>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf       
>> regular medium semibold bold
>> cabinregularregular         cabin cabinregular 
>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf       
>> regular medium semibold bold
>> cabinregularsemibold        cabin cabinregular 
>> /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf       
>> regular medium semibold bold
>>
>> What am I missing?
>>
>> Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, 
>> Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>)
>> R&A IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site)
>> Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture 
>> <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/>
>> Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/>
>>
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an 
>> entry to the Wiki!
>>
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>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>
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> Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>)
> R&A IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site)
> Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture 
> <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/>
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>
>
>
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* Re: [NTG-context] Using the open source Cabin font
  2023-06-16 13:25   ` Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context
@ 2023-06-16 13:41     ` Gerben Wierda via ntg-context
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Gerben Wierda via ntg-context @ 2023-06-16 13:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Gerben Wierda


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Removed the variable width from the system, installed the static fonts.

This works. Thank you.

G

> On 16 Jun 2023, at 15:25, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gerben,
> 
> can you try the static version of the fonts. When I tried the variable width version no files are listed but with the static version I had no problems to load the font.
> 
> \definefontfamily [archimate] [ss] [Cabin]
> 
> \setupbodyfont [archimate]
> 
> \starttext
> {\bf The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog}
> 
> \input knuth
> \stoptext
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
> Gerben Wierda via ntg-context schrieb am 16.06.2023 um 15:19:
>> I was wrong, not just the bold doesn't work, everything is replaced with Latin Modern. Cabin isn't used at all.
>> 
>>> On 16 Jun 2023, at 15:05, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've been trying to use the open source Cabin font (https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Cabin <https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Cabin>) like this:
>>> 
>>> \definefontfamily
>>>     [archimate]
>>>     [ss]
>>>     [Cabin]
>>>     [tf=style:Regular,
>>>      bf=style:Semibold,
>>>      it=style:Italic,
>>>      bi=style:Semibold Italic]
>>> \setupbodyfont[archimate]
>>> 
>>> \setuplanguage[en][patterns={en}]\mainlanguage[en]
>>> 
>>> \starttext
>>> \setupindenting[none]
>>> \setupindenting[no]
>>> {\bf The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog}
>>> 
>>> \input knuth
>>> \stoptext
>>> 
>>> But when compiling I get no bold text
>>> 
>>> I installed it in LMTX and it has been installed:
>>> 
>>> gerben@hermione% mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern='*abin*'     
>>> identifier                  familyname   fontname       filename                                                              subfont   instances
>>> 
>>> cabinitalic                 cabin        cabinitalic    /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf             italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
>>> cabinitalicbolditalic       cabin        cabinitalic    /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf             italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
>>> cabinitalicitalic           cabin        cabinitalic    /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf             italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
>>> cabinitalicmediumitalic     cabin        cabinitalic    /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf             italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
>>> cabinitalicsemibolditalic   cabin        cabinitalic    /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-Italic-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf             italic mediumitalic semibolditalic bolditalic
>>> cabinnormal                 cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
>>> cabinregular                cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
>>> cabinregularbold            cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
>>> cabinregularmedium          cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
>>> cabinregularregular         cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
>>> cabinregularsemibold        cabin        cabinregular   /Users/gerben/Library/Fonts/Cabin-VariableFont_wdth,wght.ttf                    regular medium semibold bold
>>> 
>>> What am I missing?
>>> 
>>> Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>)
>>> R&A IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site)
>>> Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/>
>>> Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/>
>>> 
>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
>>> 
>>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context <https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context>
>>> webpage  : https://www.pragma-ade.nl <https://www.pragma-ade.nl/> / http://context.aanhet.net <http://context.aanhet.net/>
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>>> wiki     : https://contextgarden.net <https://contextgarden.net/>
>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>> 
>> Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>)
>> R&A IT Strategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site)
>> Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/>
>> Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
>> 
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>> webpage  : https://www.pragma-ade.nl <https://www.pragma-ade.nl/> / http://context.aanhet.net <http://context.aanhet.net/>
>> archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ <https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/>
>> wiki     : https://contextgarden.net <https://contextgarden.net/>
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> 
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
> 
> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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> wiki     : https://contextgarden.net
> ___________________________________________________________________________________

Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>, Mastodon <https://newsie.social/@gctwnl>)
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