[NTG-context] Local alternative to \input

[NTG-context] Local alternative to \input

[Jeroen]

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I have a document that is getting a lot of mark-up instructions for
creating tables and placing figures. I would like to move this out of the
main text flow. The easiest way would be using \input, but i rather place
all this at the bottom of the file and just refer to it with something like
\localinput or so to a textblock at the bottom of the same file. What would
be the easiest way to implement this?

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[NTG-context] Re: Local alternative to \input

[Wolfgang Schuster]

eroen schrieb am 04.01.2024 um 17:12:
> I have a document that is getting a lot of mark-up instructions for 
> creating tables and placing figures. I would like to move this out of 
> the main text flow. The easiest way would be using \input, but i 
> rather place all this at the bottom of the file and just refer to it 
> with something like \localinput or so to a textblock at the bottom of 
> the same file. What would be the easiest way to implement this?

Can you provide a minimal example, natural tables provide a mechanism to 
separate layout and content but we can't know what you use in your document.

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Re: Local alternative to \input

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 04.01.24 um 17:12 schrieb Jeroen:
> I have a document that is getting a lot of mark-up instructions for 
> creating tables and placing figures. I would like to move this out of 
> the main text flow. The easiest way would be using \input, but i rather 
> place all this at the bottom of the file and just refer to it with 
> something like \localinput or so to a textblock at the bottom of the 
> same file. What would be the easiest way to implement this?

Usually, the best way to load setups is using \environment at the top of 
your file.

I don’t understand the sense in placing this in the bottom, and since 
it’s against the flow of instructions it would at least involve a second 
pass, and I don’t see how anything would work without loading it on top.

You could load an environment with a command line option, if you must 
avoid it in your file.

Hraban
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[NTG-context] Re: Local alternative to \input

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 04.01.24 um 18:00 schrieb Jeroen:
> I just would like to have a lot of mark-up for combined figures and 
> tables etc moved out of the way, similar to this. I am loosing the 
> general documetn flow because of all this markup. Would there be a 
> construction similar to this:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \environment foo
> \environment bar
> 
> \startenvironment foo
> this is a lot of text
> \stopenvironment
> 
> \startenvironment bar
> and this is another piece of text
> \stopenvironment
> 
> \stoptext

An environment is a separate file.
\environment is like \input with a few more checks, e.g. it loads the 
file only once.

e.g.

-- file "env_foo.tex" --
\startenvironment env_foo
% settings
\stopenvironment
--


-- file document.tex --
\environment env_foo

\starttext
% whatever
\stoptext
--

Instead of the call within your document, you can also call

context --environment=env_foo.tex document

(Usually that makes only sense in XML workflows.)

Hraban
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[NTG-context] Re: Local alternative to \input

[Jeroen]

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With a single environment it seems to work, though when I expand it to
multiple, it does not seem to work anymore

\starttext

SomeText \\
\environment aaa \\
SomeText \\
\environment bbb \\
SomeText \\

\startenvironment aaa
\samplefile{lorem}
\stopenvironment

\startenvironment bbb
\samplefile{tufte}
\stopenvironment

\stoptext

Op do 4 jan 2024 om 20:14 schreef Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:

> Am 04.01.24 um 18:00 schrieb Jeroen:
> > I just would like to have a lot of mark-up for combined figures and
> > tables etc moved out of the way, similar to this. I am loosing the
> > general documetn flow because of all this markup. Would there be a
> > construction similar to this:
> >
> > \starttext
> >
> > \environment foo
> > \environment bar
> >
> > \startenvironment foo
> > this is a lot of text
> > \stopenvironment
> >
> > \startenvironment bar
> > and this is another piece of text
> > \stopenvironment
> >
> > \stoptext
>
> An environment is a separate file.
> \environment is like \input with a few more checks, e.g. it loads the
> file only once.
>
> e.g.
>
> -- file "env_foo.tex" --
> \startenvironment env_foo
> % settings
> \stopenvironment
> --
>
>
> -- file document.tex --
> \environment env_foo
>
> \starttext
> % whatever
> \stoptext
> --
>
> Instead of the call within your document, you can also call
>
> context --environment=env_foo.tex document
>
> (Usually that makes only sense in XML workflows.)
>
> Hraban
>
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[NTG-context] Re: Local alternative to \input

[Denis Maier via ntg-context]

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Hi,

Aren’t environments used for setups (and not for textual content). Maybe a buffer may be what you want ?

https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startbuffer

 

Best,

Denis

 

 

Von: Jeroen <contextntg@gmail.com> 
Gesendet: Montag, 4. März 2024 06:15
An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Betreff: [NTG-context] Re: Local alternative to \input

 

With a single environment it seems to work, though when I expand it to multiple, it does not seem to work anymore

 

\starttext

SomeText \\
\environment aaa \\
SomeText \\
\environment bbb \\
SomeText \\

\startenvironment aaa
\samplefile{lorem}
\stopenvironment

\startenvironment bbb
\samplefile{tufte}
\stopenvironment

\stoptext

 

Op do 4 jan 2024 om 20:14 schreef Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net <mailto:texml@fiee.net> >:

Am 04.01.24 um 18:00 schrieb Jeroen:
> I just would like to have a lot of mark-up for combined figures and 
> tables etc moved out of the way, similar to this. I am loosing the 
> general documetn flow because of all this markup. Would there be a 
> construction similar to this:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \environment foo
> \environment bar
> 
> \startenvironment foo
> this is a lot of text
> \stopenvironment
> 
> \startenvironment bar
> and this is another piece of text
> \stopenvironment
> 
> \stoptext

An environment is a separate file.
\environment is like \input with a few more checks, e.g. it loads the 
file only once.

e.g.

-- file "env_foo.tex" --
\startenvironment env_foo
% settings
\stopenvironment
--


-- file document.tex --
\environment env_foo

\starttext
% whatever
\stoptext
--

Instead of the call within your document, you can also call

context --environment=env_foo.tex document

(Usually that makes only sense in XML workflows.)

Hraban
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[NTG-context] Re: Local alternative to \input

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 04.03.24 um 10:43 schrieb Denis Maier via ntg-context:
> Hi,
> 
> Aren’t environments used for setups (and not for textual content). Maybe 
> a buffer may be what you want ?
> 
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startbuffer 

Yes, buffers are the way to go for (textual) contents, while setups or 
environments are for settings – they handle whitespace differently.

Apparently I misunderstood the intention when I gave the answer about 
environments, sorry!

Hraban

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