* Sentence breaks for "English-style" (TeX default in English language) spacing regime
@ 2023-02-03 18:11 Henry House via ntg-context
2023-02-04 9:10 ` Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
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From: Henry House via ntg-context @ 2023-02-03 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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List: What method should one use to code whitespace after a period as
being sentence-ending, not midsentence, when not employing French
spacing? For example, if one writes
"... John Doe, PhD. Next sentence x y z ... ."
the space in "PhD. Next".
In LaTeX, we have "\@. " (code whitespace following puctuation mark as
sentence-separating length) and "\ " (code space as intrasentence
length) to adjust the magical behavior of ASCII spaces. By
experimentation I have found that "Prof.\ Smith" works as expected in
ConTeXt but "PhD\@. Next sentence ..." is a nonexistent control code.
Prof. Smith % heuristic thinks that the period ends a sentence --- wrong typesetting behavior
Prof.\ Smith % coded as space after abbreviation not sentence-separating space --- correct typesetting behavior under English spacing regime
versus:
PhD\@. Next sentence % Official LaTeX method, nonexistent control
References:
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/French_spacing Not helpful alas.
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread* Re: Sentence breaks for "English-style" (TeX default in English language) spacing regime 2023-02-03 18:11 Sentence breaks for "English-style" (TeX default in English language) spacing regime Henry House via ntg-context @ 2023-02-04 9:10 ` Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context 2023-02-05 12:44 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context @ 2023-02-04 9:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Henry House via ntg-context; +Cc: Pablo Rodriguez On 2/3/23 19:11, Henry House via ntg-context wrote: > List: What method should one use to code whitespace after a period as > being sentence-ending, not midsentence, when not employing French > spacing? Hi Henry, not sure I’m getting your point, since this is also a question of perspective. What may be named “French spacing” in English may be considered as “English spacing” in any other European language. But this is pure TeX (https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/teximpatient.git/plain/teximpatient/book.pdf#search=null): \starttext \startTEXpage[offset=1em] PhD. Next sentence PhD\null. Next sentence \stopTEXpage \stoptext I think this may be what you want. > References: > > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/French_spacing Not helpful alas. Would you be so kind to update the wiki? I hope it helps, Pablo ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Sentence breaks for "English-style" (TeX default in English language) spacing regime 2023-02-04 9:10 ` Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context @ 2023-02-05 12:44 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context 2023-02-14 17:57 ` Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen via ntg-context @ 2023-02-05 12:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context; +Cc: Hans Hagen On 2/4/2023 10:10 AM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: > On 2/3/23 19:11, Henry House via ntg-context wrote: >> List: What method should one use to code whitespace after a period as >> being sentence-ending, not midsentence, when not employing French >> spacing? > > Hi Henry, > > not sure I’m getting your point, since this is also a question of > perspective. > > What may be named “French spacing” in English may be considered as > “English spacing” in any other European language. > > But this is pure TeX > (https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/teximpatient.git/plain/teximpatient/book.pdf#search=null): > > \starttext > \startTEXpage[offset=1em] > PhD. Next sentence > > PhD\null. Next sentence > \stopTEXpage > \stoptext > > I think this may be what you want. > >> References: >> >> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/French_spacing Not helpful alas. > > Would you be so kind to update the wiki? > > I hope it helps, Assuming that you document it I'll add test\fsp. test. test where fsp == fixed space functuation Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Sentence breaks for "English-style" (TeX default in English language) spacing regime 2023-02-05 12:44 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context @ 2023-02-14 17:57 ` Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context @ 2023-02-14 17:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Hans Hagen via ntg-context; +Cc: Pablo Rodriguez On 2/5/23 13:44, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > On 2/4/2023 10:10 AM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: >>> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/French_spacing Not helpful alas. >> >> Would you be so kind to update the wiki? >> >> I hope it helps, > Assuming that you document it I'll add > > test\fsp. test. test > > where fsp == fixed space functuation Sorry for the delay, Hans. It is documented here: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/French_spacing#Mixing_broad_and_packed_spaces. Pablo ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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