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Hi All,

I'm trying to get a simple bibliography to work with ConTeXt. Here's what I
have so far:

*test.tex*

\usebtxdataset[bibliography.bib]

\starttext

  \startbodymatter
    See \cite[proofwiki]
  \stopbodymatter

  \startbackmatter
    \startsection[title=Bibliography]
    \stopsection
  \stopbackmatter
\stoptext

*bibliography.bib*

@misc{
  proofwiki,
  title={{Definition:Collation - ProofWiki}},
  author={{ProofWiki}},
  howpublished={
    \href{https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Definition:Collation}{link}
  },
  journal={{ProofWiki}},
  year={2021}
}

When I compile test.tex it generates a pdf, but the citation is not
included in the body matter. Also the actual reference is not present in
Bibliography.

What am I doing wrong?

Regards,

Amine

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* Re: Trying to get a simple bibliography
  2022-03-26 12:25 Trying to get a simple bibliography A A via ntg-context
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In my previous email I forgot to include the \placelistofpublications
command. I tried that and now I'm getting a citation, but the bibliography
entry is not correctly typeset...

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 at 13:25, A A <amine.aboufirass@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'm trying to get a simple bibliography to work with ConTeXt. Here's what
> I have so far:
>
> *test.tex*
>
> \usebtxdataset[bibliography.bib]
>
> \starttext
>
>   \startbodymatter
>     See \cite[proofwiki]
>   \stopbodymatter
>
>   \startbackmatter
>     \startsection[title=Bibliography]
>     \stopsection
>   \stopbackmatter
> \stoptext
>
> *bibliography.bib*
>
> @misc{
>   proofwiki,
>   title={{Definition:Collation - ProofWiki}},
>   author={{ProofWiki}},
>   howpublished={
>     \href{https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Definition:Collation}{link}
>   },
>   journal={{ProofWiki}},
>   year={2021}
> }
>
> When I compile test.tex it generates a pdf, but the citation is not
> included in the body matter. Also the actual reference is not present in
> Bibliography.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Regards,
>
> Amine
>
>

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* Re: Trying to get a simple bibliography
  2022-03-26 12:48 ` A A via ntg-context
@ 2022-03-26 13:04   ` A A via ntg-context
  2022-03-26 13:51     ` Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context
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I found the problem. I was not including the following in my preamble:

\usebtxdefinitions[aps]

The next question I guess is whether ConTeXt support other specs like MLA
or Chicago style. I tried MLA but without sucess. Is MLA possible in
ConTeXt?

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 at 13:48, A A <amine.aboufirass@gmail.com> wrote:

> In my previous email I forgot to include the \placelistofpublications
> command. I tried that and now I'm getting a citation, but the bibliography
> entry is not correctly typeset...
>
> On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 at 13:25, A A <amine.aboufirass@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm trying to get a simple bibliography to work with ConTeXt. Here's what
>> I have so far:
>>
>> *test.tex*
>>
>> \usebtxdataset[bibliography.bib]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>>   \startbodymatter
>>     See \cite[proofwiki]
>>   \stopbodymatter
>>
>>   \startbackmatter
>>     \startsection[title=Bibliography]
>>     \stopsection
>>   \stopbackmatter
>> \stoptext
>>
>> *bibliography.bib*
>>
>> @misc{
>>   proofwiki,
>>   title={{Definition:Collation - ProofWiki}},
>>   author={{ProofWiki}},
>>   howpublished={
>>     \href{https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Definition:Collation}{link}
>>   },
>>   journal={{ProofWiki}},
>>   year={2021}
>> }
>>
>> When I compile test.tex it generates a pdf, but the citation is not
>> included in the body matter. Also the actual reference is not present in
>> Bibliography.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Amine
>>
>>

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* Re: Trying to get a simple bibliography
  2022-03-26 13:04   ` A A via ntg-context
@ 2022-03-26 13:51     ` Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context
  2022-03-26 14:34       ` A A via ntg-context
  2022-03-26 17:04       ` Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
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> On 26. Mar 2022, at 14:04, A A via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> 
> The next question I guess is whether ConTeXt support other specs like MLA or Chicago style. I tried MLA but without sucess. Is MLA possible in ConTeXt?

One (admittedly far-fetched) possibility would be to read the documentation. mkiv-publications, p. 29: context supports apa and aps styles for the moment; contributions are always welcome.

Thomas
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* Re: Trying to get a simple bibliography
  2022-03-26 13:51     ` Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context
@ 2022-03-26 14:34       ` A A via ntg-context
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Hi Thomas,

Yes, I was able to find the appropriate section in the manual, thanks.
Please see my answer at SE
<https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/638481/getting-a-simple-bibliography-to-work-in-context>
.

I don't think reading the docs is far-fetched by the way. But I think
asking on here is also fine.

I'll consider making a contribution once I get a better grip of how the
ConTeXt system is put together.

Again thanks for your response.

Regards,

Amine

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 at 14:52, Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

>
>
> > On 26. Mar 2022, at 14:04, A A via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
> wrote:
> >
> > The next question I guess is whether ConTeXt support other specs like
> MLA or Chicago style. I tried MLA but without sucess. Is MLA possible in
> ConTeXt?
>
> One (admittedly far-fetched) possibility would be to read the
> documentation. mkiv-publications, p. 29: context supports apa and aps
> styles for the moment; contributions are always welcome.
>
> Thomas
>
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* Re: Trying to get a simple bibliography
  2022-03-26 14:34       ` A A via ntg-context
@ 2022-03-26 15:37         ` Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context
  2022-03-26 15:42           ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context @ 2022-03-26 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Amine,

The bibliography subsystem is rather complex, and Alan, who has worked with Hans on support for APS and APA, wants to do things the right way, which means he wants to code for all corner cases. From my own experience: it is difficult to just copy and modify the existing publ-imp-XXX files; they define a number of clever macros that allow code reuse and consistency, but are not the most straightforward way for a non-programmer (like myself) to proceed. I have found it easier to start from scratch by writing my own publ-imp-custom.{mkiv,lua} files and then add whatever I need, one entry type at a time. That also allows you to understand the ways in which the system works. But of course, it’s less convenient than just changing APA to MLA, as you can in biblatex. ConTeXt has a much smaller user base, so we take somewhat longer. Maybe I should add a wiki article on a basic way to start one’s own custom definitions...

Best

Thomas

> On 26. Mar 2022, at 15:34, A A via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> 
> Hi Thomas,
> 
> Yes, I was able to find the appropriate section in the manual, thanks. Please see my answer at SE. 
> 
> I don't think reading the docs is far-fetched by the way. But I think asking on here is also fine.
> 
> I'll consider making a contribution once I get a better grip of how the ConTeXt system is put together.
> 
> Again thanks for your response.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Amine

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* Re: Trying to get a simple bibliography
  2022-03-26 15:37         ` Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context
@ 2022-03-26 15:42           ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
  2022-03-26 15:58             ` Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context
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From: Denis Maier via ntg-context @ 2022-03-26 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context; +Cc: denis.maier, thomas.schmitz

I think you've done that already ...



________________________________________
Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> im Auftrag von Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Gesendet: Samstag, 26. März 2022 16:37:03
An: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Cc: Thomas A. Schmitz
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Trying to get a simple bibliography

Hi Amine,

The bibliography subsystem is rather complex, and Alan, who has worked with Hans on support for APS and APA, wants to do things the right way, which means he wants to code for all corner cases. From my own experience: it is difficult to just copy and modify the existing publ-imp-XXX files; they define a number of clever macros that allow code reuse and consistency, but are not the most straightforward way for a non-programmer (like myself) to proceed. I have found it easier to start from scratch by writing my own publ-imp-custom.{mkiv,lua} files and then add whatever I need, one entry type at a time. That also allows you to understand the ways in which the system works. But of course, it’s less convenient than just changing APA to MLA, as you can in biblatex. ConTeXt has a much smaller user base, so we take somewhat longer. Maybe I should add a wiki article on a basic way to start one’s own custom definitions...

Best

Thomas

> On 26. Mar 2022, at 15:34, A A via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> Yes, I was able to find the appropriate section in the manual, thanks. Please see my answer at SE.
>
> I don't think reading the docs is far-fetched by the way. But I think asking on here is also fine.
>
> I'll consider making a contribution once I get a better grip of how the ConTeXt system is put together.
>
> Again thanks for your response.
>
> Regards,
>
> Amine

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* Re: Trying to get a simple bibliography
  2022-03-26 15:42           ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
@ 2022-03-26 15:58             ` Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context
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> On 26. Mar 2022, at 16:42, Denis Maier via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> 
> I think you've done that already ...

Oh my goodness, I’m getting too old for this… Thanks for pointing that out!

[Historical context: the Greek scholar Didymus had several nicknames. One was Chalcenterus “Bronze-Guts” because he could remain seated at his desk for hours without moving. The other was “bibliolathas” “Book-forgetter” because he wrote so many books he couldn’t remember them himself. End of historical context]

Thomas
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* Re: Trying to get a simple bibliography
  2022-03-26 13:51     ` Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context
  2022-03-26 14:34       ` A A via ntg-context
@ 2022-03-26 17:04       ` Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
  2022-03-29 14:52         ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context @ 2022-03-26 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 26.03.22 um 14:51 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context:
> 
> 
>> On 26. Mar 2022, at 14:04, A A via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>>
>> The next question I guess is whether ConTeXt support other specs like MLA or Chicago style. I tried MLA but without sucess. Is MLA possible in ConTeXt?
> 
> One (admittedly far-fetched) possibility would be to read the documentation. mkiv-publications, p. 29: context supports apa and aps styles for the moment; contributions are always welcome.

There’s also Joey McCollum’s SBL style: github.com/jjmccollum/context-sb

Hraban
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* Re: Trying to get a simple bibliography
  2022-03-26 12:25 Trying to get a simple bibliography A A via ntg-context
  2022-03-26 12:48 ` A A via ntg-context
@ 2022-03-27 19:49 ` Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
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Hi Amine,

There are several ways to achieve a bibliography. The first one is your 
way, with a buffer, which you have to name it (see below : the buffer is 
named 'biblio')  : you put your references to books and articles between 
the 2 commands \startbuffer and \stopbuffer as the model shows hereafter 
(with the APA style). If you want to print a general and simple 
bibliography, you need a double command :\usebtxdataset[/any title you 
choose/][biblio.buffer] and \definebtxrendering[/any 
title/][apa][dataset=/any title/] after \stopbuffer. At the end of the 
text, you need to define the place where you want to print the 
bibliography. For that purpose :

\starttext

\startbackmatter

\startchapter[title={Bibliography}]

\placelistofpublications[/any title/] [method=local]

\stopchapter

\stopbackmatter

\stoptext

/But, as far as I know, this method is boring/, because you need to 
write all you bibliographical sources in the buffer. The better is to 
build a separate bibtex file with such a software as JabRef (which is a 
kind of bibtex tool). This bibtex file is in your ConTeXt repository and 
you need only to call the name of your bibtex item. For instance, the 
book /Natural Right and History/ of Leo Strauss becomes 'Strauss,1952' 
(with JabRef) and if you cite this book in your text (like this : 
\cite[alternative=entry][/any title/::Strauss1952]}, you can find the 
item at the 'S' letter. Indeed, there is some work to do (feed your 
bitex file with items...), but when it is done once, it is forever (I 
guess ...). I give you a MWE as an attached file ...

Hope it helps !

JP

[/here is the beginning of a buffer sample /]

\startbuffer[biblio]

@book{Cicéron1,

author = {Cicéron},

title = {Tusculanes, V, 8},

}


@INCOLLECTION{Leibniz1885,

author = {Leibniz, G. W.},

title = {Principes de la nature et de la grâce fondés en raison, 1714},

title:en = {Principles of Nature and Grace Founded in Reason},

booktitle = {\de Die Philosophischen Schriften von Gottfried Wilhelm 
Leibniz},

booktitle:en = {The Philosophical Writings of Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz},

editor = {Gerhardt, C. G.},

publisher = {Weidmann},

year = {1885},

volume = {6},

chapter = {8},

pages = {598–606},

address = {Berlin},

language = {french},

}


@book{Rousseau1755,

author ={Rousseau, Jean-Jacques}

title = {Discours sur l’Origine et les Fondements de l’Inégalité parmi 
les Hommes.},

year = {1755},

}


@book{Rousseau1750,

author ={Rousseau, Jean-Jacques}

title = {Discours sur les Sciences et les Arts},

year = {1750},

}


@book{Rousseau1762,

author = {Rousseau, Jean-Jacques},

title = {Émile},

year = {1762},

}

\stopbuffer



Le 26/03/2022 à 13:25, A A via ntg-context a écrit :
> Hi All,
>
> I'm trying to get a simple bibliography to work with ConTeXt. Here's 
> what I have so far:
>
> *test.tex*
> *
> *
> \usebtxdataset[bibliography.bib]
>
> \starttext
>
>   \startbodymatter
>     See \cite[proofwiki]
>   \stopbodymatter
>
>   \startbackmatter
>     \startsection[title=Bibliography]
>     \stopsection
>   \stopbackmatter
> \stoptext
> *
> *
> *bibliography.bib*
> *
> *
> @misc{
>   proofwiki,
>   title={{Definition:Collation - ProofWiki}},
>   author={{ProofWiki}},
>   howpublished={
>     \href{https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Definition:Collation}{link 
> <https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Definition:Collation}{link>}
>   },
>   journal={{ProofWiki}},
>   year={2021}
> }
>
> When I compile test.tex it generates a pdf, but the citation is not 
> included in the body matter. Also the actual reference is not present 
> in Bibliography.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Regards,
>
> Amine
> *
> *
>
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\startbuffer[biblio]

@book{Cicéron1,
author = {Cicéron},
title = {Tusculanes, V, 8},
}


@INCOLLECTION{Leibniz1885,
author = {Leibniz, G. W.},
title = {Principes de la nature et de la grâce fondés en raison, 1714},
title:en = {Principles of Nature and Grace Founded in Reason},
booktitle = {\de Die Philosophischen Schriften von Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz},
booktitle:en = {The Philosophical Writings of Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz},
editor = {Gerhardt, C. G.},
publisher = {Weidmann},
year = {1885},
volume = {6},
chapter = {8},
pages = {598–606},
address = {Berlin},
language = {french},
}

@book{Rousseau1755,
author ={Rousseau, Jean-Jacques}
title = {Discours sur l’Origine et les Fondements de l’Inégalité parmi les Hommes.},
year = {1755},
}

@book{Rousseau1750,
author ={Rousseau, Jean-Jacques}
title = {Discours sur les Sciences et les Arts},
  year = {1750},
}

@book{Rousseau1762,
  author = {Rousseau, Jean-Jacques},
  title = {Émile},
  year = {1762},
 }
 
@book{Strauss1952,
author = {Strauss, Leo},
title = {Philosophie und Gesetz. Philosophy and Law},
publisher = {University of Chicago Press}
year = {1935},
}

@article{Strauss1953
  author = {Strauss, Leo},
  title = {L’intention de Rousseau},
  year = {1953},
 }
 
 @book{Strauss1953
  author = {Strauss, Leo},
  title = {Natural Right and History},
  publisher = {Chicago University Press},
  year = {1953},
  pages = {336},

 }
 
 @book{Strauss1959,
 author = {Strauss, Leo},
 title = {Qu’est-ce que la philosophie politique ?},
 publisher = {P.U.F.},
  year = {1959},
  pages = {338},
 
  }
 
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  author = {Platon},
  title = {La République},
  
   }

 @book{Platon2,
  author = {Platon},
  title = {Phédon},
  
 }
 
  @book{Aristote1,
  author = {Aristote},
  title = {Éthique à Nicomaque},
  
 }

  @book{Aristote2,
  author = {Aristote},
  title = {Les Politiques},
  
 }
 
 @book{Fumaroli2001,
author = {Fumaroli, Marc},
title = {La Querelle des Anciens et des Modernes},
publisher = {Gallimard},
year = {2001},
}

@book{Tanguay2003,
author = {Tanguay, Daniel},
title = {Leo Strauss. Une biographie intellectuelle},
publisher = {Grasset},
year = {2003}
pages = {320},
}

@book{Laks2002,
author = {Laks, André},
title = {Qu’est-ce que la philosophie présocratique ?},
publisher = {Presses Universitaires du Septentrion},
year = {2002},
pages = {552},
}
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Dans les notes que l’on va suivre, on s’intéressera au cheminement de la pensée philosophique comme philosophie politique. C’est Leo Strauss\footnote{\cite[alternative=entry][philosophie moderne::Strauss1959]} qui alerte sur la difficulté de retrouver les problèmes de philosophie politique dans les avatars philosophiques que la modernité a pu construire\footnote{Leo Strauss ne propose pas un {\it zurück zu}, un retour vers l’Antiquité, mais dévoile une véritable archéologie de la Modernité, en cernant une série de problèmes. Pour un point de vue général, mais précis sur Leo Strauss, on consultera la biographie intellectuelle que Daniel Tanguay a consacré à Strauss\footnote{\cite[alternative=entry][philosophie moderne::Tanguay2003]}.}.

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En premier lieu, la notion de {\it modernité} fait problème. Par-delà une possible recherche pour repérer les emplois du mot à toutes les époques (et Chateaubriand se vante, dans ses {\it Mémoires d’Outre-Tombe} d’être le créateur du mot {\it modernité}), Strauss réactualise la querelle littéraire des {\it Anciens et des Modernes}\footnote{\cite[alternative=entry][philosophie moderne::Fumaroli2001]}, division par laquelle il distingue le travail philosophique sur la politique, et signale l’affaiblissement moderne de cette compréhension, par la rupture avec la préoccupation politique de la philosophie au profit d’une philosophie du sujet qui s’intéresse plus à la liberté qu’à la vertu et plus à la liberté morale qu’à la recherche du {\it bien commun}.

Cicéron, ce grand homme politique et cet écrivain savant, a eu la formule bien connue, selon laquelle \quotation{Socrate fit descendre la philosophie du ciel sur la terre.}\footnote{\cite[alternative=entry][philosophie ancienne::Cicéron1]}, qui désigne la question fondamentale de l’intérêt nourri par la philosophie pour les {\it anthropina pragmata}, pour les {\it choses humaines}, au contraire des philosophes dits “présocratiques” qui s’intéressent plutôt à la cosmologie, à la nature ({\it phusis})\footnote{\cite[alternative=entry][philosophie ancienne::Laks2002]}.

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On pourrait commencer par énoncer la différence entre la {\it philosophie politique} et la {\it science politique} : la sicence politique est l’étude des institutions politiques, des modes de suffrages et de la sciologie électorale. La {\it science} est ici une paroisse de la sociologie. En revanche, la philosophie politique s’intéresse, en tant que philosophie, au Tout ({\it to pan}), mais dans la mesure où les Hommes échangent des opinions sur le {\it meilleur régime}, des opinions concernant la meilleure façon de vivre\footnote{\cite[alternative=entry][philosophie ancienne::Platon1]}\footnote{\cite[alternative=entry][philosophie ancienne::Aristote2]}.\par

L’écueil de ce genre de distinction, on le voit bien, revient à vouloir justifier cette séparation entre les Anciens et les Modernes, en opérant un retour vers les Anciens. La position inverse est inconfortable, puisqu’elle revient à faire le lit de l’historicisme. Séparer la philosophie ancienne de la philosophie moderne, ne serait-ce pas, en favorisant les vues antiques, revenir à la position adoptée par le Rousseau du {\it Discours sur les Sciences et les Arts} \footnote{\cite[alternative=entry][philosophie moderne::Rousseau1750]} ? Dans cet ouvrage, on s’en souvient, Rousseau critique durement la science vulgarisée et dénonce l’affaissement des perspectives modernes, en reprenant à Montesquieu une formule sans appel : \quotation{Les anciens politiques s’entretenaient d’honneur et de vertu; les nôtre ne parlent que de commerce et d’argent.} \par




\en In this classic analysis, Leo Strauss pinpoints what is original and innovative in the political philosophy of Thomas Hobbes. He argues that Hobbes's ideas arose not from tradition or science but from his own deep knowledge and experience of human nature. Tracing the development of Hobbes's moral doctrine from his early writings to his major work The Leviathan, Strauss explains contradictions in the body of Hobbes's work and discovers startling connections between Hobbes and the thought of Plato, Thucydides, Aristotle, Descartes, Spinoza, and Hegel\footnote{\cite[alternative=entry][philosophie moderne::Strauss1952]}.

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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> Im Auftrag von Henning
> Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
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> Am 26.03.22 um 14:51 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context:
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> >> On 26. Mar 2022, at 14:04, A A via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
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> >> The next question I guess is whether ConTeXt support other specs like
> MLA or Chicago style. I tried MLA but without sucess. Is MLA possible in
> ConTeXt?
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> > One (admittedly far-fetched) possibility would be to read the
> documentation. mkiv-publications, p. 29: context supports apa and aps styles
> for the moment; contributions are always welcome.
> 
> There’s also Joey McCollum’s SBL style: github.com/jjmccollum/context-sb

Which leads to the question: Could Joey's style be added to distribution?

Also, Joey has posted a wishlish regarding context's bibliographic features: https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg100712.html

Maybe we should resume that thread again...

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Denis
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