Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\

[Carlos <linguafalsa@gmail.com>]

On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 06:52:30PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 7/5/2023 6:38 PM, Carlos wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 06:12:32PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > > On 7/5/2023 5:53 PM, Carlos wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 04:43:56PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > > > > On 7/5/2023 3:18 PM, Carlos wrote:
> > > > > > \showmakeup on \TeX\ shows a
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > tSP:3.282
> > > > > > THK:-1.721
> > > > > > H__E
> > > > > > X
> > > > > > HK:-1.291
> > > > > > SP:3.282
> > > > > 
> > > > > no MWE includes so clueless
> > > > 
> > > > \starttypescript[mylucidaserif]
> > > >     \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightRegular]    [file:LucidaBrightRegular]
> > > >     \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightItalic]     [file:LucidaBrightItalic]
> > > >     \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightDemiBold]       [file:LucidaBrightDemiBold]
> > > >     \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightDemiItalic] [file:LucidaBrightDemiItalic]
> > > > \stoptypescript
> > > Hm, isn't that this lucida rip off again? Maybe bad metricks then but I'm
> > > not going to look into that as the official TUG lucida opentype fonts
> > > perform okay.
> > > 
> > > Hans
> > 
> > The first sentence is irrelevant. And a guess. Bad metrics is not the
> > culprit
> > 
> > if it were true, the same problem would be under lualatex, correct?
> 
> well, who knows what (me)tricks those fonts have embedded .. are these the
> official TUG lucida open type fonts? if so,
> 
> \setupbodyfont[lucida]
> 
> should just work (btw, you also don't set up math)
> 
> > But it's not there.
> I can't (and won't) check that as I don't have (lua)latex installed nor have
> those fonts. I also don't see where this \qquad is in your example.


Using the same fonts under lualatex yields \TeX\ without an issue. 

\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{unicode-math}

\defaultfontfeatures{Ligatures=TeX}

\setmainfont[
      ItalicFont=LucidaBrightItalic,
        BoldFont=LucidaBrightDemiBold,
  BoldItalicFont=LucidaBrightDemiItalic,
  ]{LucidaBrightRegular}
%
\setsansfont[
      ItalicFont=LucidaSansOblique,
        BoldFont=LucidaSansDemiBold,
  BoldItalicFont=LucidaSansDemiOblique,
  ]{LucidaSansRegular}
%
\setmonofont[
%      ItalicFont=LucidaTypewriterOblique,
        BoldFont=LucidaTypewriterBold,
%  BoldItalicFont=LucidaTypewriterBoldOblique,
  ]{LucidaTypewriterRegular}

\begin{document}

{\rm    \input{knuth}}

\textsf{\input{knuth}}

\end{document}

> 
> As for the \showmakup ... it is used extensively and afaiks there are no
> issues with it.

After running lualatex the problem dissappears. Or it seems like it. 

> 
> Hans
> 
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