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From: Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com>
To: supervision@list.skarnet.org
Subject: Re: Generic interrupt command?
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 14:30:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190202143014.77a5ac5f@mydesk.domain.cxm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <em454e625c-2515-4dc6-9d01-fcd67999d51d@elzian>

On Sat, 02 Feb 2019 09:07:31 +0000
"Laurent Bercot" <ska-supervision@skarnet.org> wrote:

> >I think a cool addition to runit program sv and s6's s6-svc would be
> >a command to send an arbitrary signal to the daemon being
> >supervised.  
> 
> Yes, that would be a nice feature. I've been thinking about it for
> some time.
> Unfortunately, that's not at all suited to the way the control
> program communicates with the supervisor, and adding this feature,
> as simple as it seems, would require significant work.
> 
> There is probably a (dirty, hackish) way to make it work with
> normal signals (<128). But there's absolutely no way to ever make it
> work with real-time signals or anything with a signal number over 128
> without rewriting the supervisor state machine and making it more
> complex and more brittle. Which is an instant nope from me.

Yes. If I liked complex and brittle, I'd just use systemd.

I wasn't aware there were interrupts higher than 128. When I perform
kill -L on my machine, the biggest number is 64.

> 
> Restricting the feature to normal signals would probably be enough,
> but even then, I'm not comfortable with the level of hackiness it
> would require. 

No problem, watch this (done in runit because I have no running s6 right
now):

====================================================
kill -s SIGKILL `sv status agetty-tty6 | \
  sed -e"s/.*(pid\s*//"    -e"s/).*//"
====================================================

So I can already get what I was asking for. What would make life a
little more convenient would be if sv had a "pid" command that would be
just like the "status" command except it prints only the PID. Then the
preceding command simplifies to:

====================================================
kill -s SIGKILL `sv pid agetty-tty6`
====================================================

I don't know if the s6-svc command already has the equivalent of a
hypothetical sv "pid" command, but if it doesn't, I imagine it would be
easy to put in and very helpful to those forging shellscripts.

By adding this little addition to s6-svc (and hopefully sv if Gerrit
can scrape together the time), no hackiness would be added to s6 or
runit: Any hackiness would be in the shellscript created by the
programmer using s6 or runit. 

SteveT
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Steve Litt 
January 2019 featured book: Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
http://www.troubleshooters.com/tjust


  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-02 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-02  2:36 Steve Litt
2019-02-02  9:07 ` Laurent Bercot
2019-02-02 19:30   ` Steve Litt [this message]
2019-02-02 21:08     ` Colin Booth
2019-02-02 21:40       ` Steve Litt
2019-02-05  3:09         ` John O'Meara
2019-02-05  4:15           ` Roger Pate
2019-02-05  7:20           ` Laurent Bercot
2019-02-05 14:16             ` John O'Meara
2019-02-05 19:30               ` Laurent Bercot
2019-02-10  4:14                 ` John O'Meara
2019-02-10 11:41                   ` Laurent Bercot
2019-02-02 22:31       ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard

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