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From: "John O'Meara" <john.fr.omeara@gmail.com>
To: Laurent Bercot <ska-supervision@skarnet.org>
Cc: "supervision@list.skarnet.org" <supervision@list.skarnet.org>
Subject: Re: Generic interrupt command?
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 09:16:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPCpfp901i5nSXuyrqhRsth+7-PaK6nnQaz_VHGzgPRmLEhGoA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <em013aac3d-3413-4690-bca7-8b63204ff22b@elzian>

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On Tue, Feb 5, 2019, 2:20 AM Laurent Bercot <ska-supervision@skarnet.org>
wrote:

> >Be careful, though. If the service is down, kill will use -1 for the PID,
> >and will probably signal everything in your system except PID 1.
>
>   That's a good point. Should s6-svstat use 0 as the "service is down"
> pid value instead, to avoid this ?
>

0 behaves better for this use case, but can still produce unexpected
behavior.

The construction "echo 0 | xargs kill -STOP" for example leaves behind a
paused background task that needs to be cleaned by hand.

The construction "kill -STOP $(echo 0)" hangs the terminal until someone
resumes the user's shell.

Most other "kill -whatever $(echo 0)" results in the shell exiting and the
user having to log back in.

So, 0 is a lot better than -1, but still not great.

Not outputting anything causes kill (on my system at least) to exit non 0
and give some diagnostic ("`' not a pid or valid pid spec", "you need to
specify whom to kill", or the usage message). That's nice, but would
probably break other scripting that expects a value, especially for
s6-svstat showing multiple fields.

I can't think of a safe and simple way to do this. For example, we could
suggest people do something like this (based on Roger Pate's post):

   pid=$(s6-svstat -p /my/service) && [ "$pid" -ne -1 ] && kill -SIGNAL $pid

but that's a lot of typing and requires that people see and remember the
suggestion, so not quite simple :-/

-- 
John O'Meara

>

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-05 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-02  2:36 Steve Litt
2019-02-02  9:07 ` Laurent Bercot
2019-02-02 19:30   ` Steve Litt
2019-02-02 21:08     ` Colin Booth
2019-02-02 21:40       ` Steve Litt
2019-02-05  3:09         ` John O'Meara
2019-02-05  4:15           ` Roger Pate
2019-02-05  7:20           ` Laurent Bercot
2019-02-05 14:16             ` John O'Meara [this message]
2019-02-05 19:30               ` Laurent Bercot
2019-02-10  4:14                 ` John O'Meara
2019-02-10 11:41                   ` Laurent Bercot
2019-02-02 22:31       ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard

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