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From: Alex Suykov <alex.suykov@gmail.com>
To: supervision@list.skarnet.org
Subject: Re: runit SIGPWR support
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 11:45:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200228094541.GA2429@cube> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200228063947.w6le5lzy7wbfs4xf@klumpi.ignorelist.com>

Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 07:39:47AM +0100, Jan Braun wrote:

> The Linux kernel uses SIGPWR to tell init "there's a power failure
> imminent". There's a difference to "please shutdown the system", even if
> (current versions of) busybox and openrc choose to shutdown the system
> when told about an imminent power failure.

The Linux kernel never sends SIGPWR to init on most platforms.

Grepping the source, there are only about two places where SIGPWR can be
sent to the init process from the kernel: machine check exception on S390,
and some power-related hardware failure indication on SGI workstations.
I'm not familiar with either of those but I suspect in both cases
the signal is expected to initiate immediate shutdown. Otherwise, why
would they signal init.

Just for reference, I checked apcupsd sources. It does include an example
of sending SIGPWR to init when some UPS event arrives, but it's just an
example, and in that setting spawning some script would be a better approach
anyway. The same applies to pretty much anything else in userspace that might
be monitoring power supply. It should not be signalling init, it should
have some sort of a configuration event handler.

Unless it's matter of principle, hard-coding SIGPWR as a shutdown signal
sounds like a decent idea to me, at least on Linux. LXD and similar
containers might be the only class of applications for which signalling
init like that actually makes sense. The distinction between SIGINT for
reboot and SIGPWR for shutdown does not sound awful either.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-28  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1beb6e35-d4be-60b8-fc52-af666c4fffe3@gmx.com>
2020-02-12 14:25 ` innerspacepilot
2020-02-12 21:54   ` Colin Booth
2020-02-12 22:16     ` Dewayne Geraghty
2020-02-14  9:38     ` Jeff
2020-02-14 12:38       ` Steve Litt
2020-02-15 10:47       ` fungal-net
2020-02-14 10:08     ` Jeff
2020-02-14 10:46     ` Jeff
2020-02-14 12:29       ` innerspacepilot
2020-02-14 12:45         ` Steve Litt
     [not found]           ` <CALZWFRLvtofWfP4kzxJ8_8_K3nzebPjCR-NsJ2MU22cSuaOLng@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <20200214182241.15614126@mydesk.domain.cxm>
2020-02-17 19:46               ` Cameron Nemo
2020-02-23 16:11                 ` Jeff
2020-02-17 14:39         ` Jeff
2020-02-14 14:02       ` Casper Ti. Vector
2020-02-17 14:45     ` Jeff
2020-02-17 14:50       ` Jeff
2020-02-14 13:15   ` Casper Ti. Vector
2020-02-14 13:39     ` innerspacepilot
2020-02-14 13:57       ` Casper Ti. Vector
2020-02-14 14:06         ` innerspacepilot
2020-02-14 14:25           ` Casper Ti. Vector
2020-02-14 18:30       ` Laurent Bercot
2020-02-17 10:00         ` innerspacepilot
2020-02-17 15:13           ` Jeff
2020-02-18  9:39             ` Laurent Bercot
2020-02-20 20:39               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-02-23 16:51               ` Jeff
2020-02-23 23:53                 ` Laurent Bercot
2020-02-24  6:31                   ` innerspacepilot
2020-02-24 10:23                     ` Laurent Bercot
2020-02-24 13:00                       ` Jeff
2020-02-24 19:53                         ` Laurent Bercot
2020-02-24 13:12                       ` innerspacepilot
2020-02-24 15:26                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-02-26  8:07                           ` innerspacepilot
2020-02-28  6:39                             ` Jan Braun
2020-02-28  9:45                               ` Alex Suykov [this message]
2020-02-28 23:50                                 ` fungal-net
2020-02-29 13:44                                 ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
2020-02-29 18:20                             ` Guillermo
2020-03-06 20:07                               ` innerspacepilot
2020-03-06 20:09                               ` innerspacepilot
2020-02-25  8:39                       ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
2020-02-24 21:13                   ` Guillermo
2020-02-24 22:25                     ` Laurent Bercot
2020-02-24 22:49                       ` Laurent Bercot
2020-02-24 23:08                         ` Guillermo
2020-02-25  1:48                           ` Laurent Bercot
2020-02-25  9:08                             ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
2020-02-25 18:38                               ` Guillermo
2020-03-16 12:49                               ` Jeff
2020-03-16 17:13                               ` Jeff
2020-02-24 23:03                       ` Guillermo
2020-03-16 12:31                       ` Jeff
2020-03-16 18:03                         ` Laurent Bercot
2020-02-23 17:31               ` Jeff
2020-02-24  0:33                 ` Laurent Bercot
2020-02-14 19:08   ` John W Higgins
2020-02-14 23:18     ` Laurent Bercot
2020-02-14 23:38       ` John W Higgins
2020-02-15  2:15         ` Laurent Bercot
2020-04-14 16:57 Maxim Vetsalo
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-01-23 20:44 innerspacepilot
2020-01-31  4:39 ` Colin Booth

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