From: David Barto <email@example.com>
To: Dan Stromberg <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Cc: TUHS main list <email@example.com>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Compilation "vs" byte-code interpretation, was Re: Looking back to 1981 - what pascal was popular on what unix?
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 12:09:12 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <075FBF35-8327-4BD1-B532-C7D7DC71375A@kdbarto.org> (raw)
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> On Jan 30, 2022, at 10:08 AM, Dan Stromberg <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 8:58 AM David Barto <email@example.com> wrote:
>> Yes, the UCSD P-code interpreter was ported to 4.1 BSD on the VAX and it ran natively there. I used it on sdcsvax in my senior year (1980).
> This reminds me of a question I've had percolating in the back of my mind.
> Was USCD Pascal "compiled" or "interpreted" or both?
> And is Java? They both have a byte code interpreter. Yes, modern Java is JIT-compiled, but does that make Java a compiled language in the Oracle implementation, or is it an interpreter with a pretty good runtime? Wasn't Java referred to as "compiled" even back before the JIT compiler was added? Granted, gcj is compiled. But Oracle's implementation of Java is commonly referred to as a "Compiler". And what about back before Java's JIT compiler was added - ISTR recall Java was referred to as a compiled language before the JIT addition.
> And then there's the CPython implementation of Python. It too uses a byte code interpreter, but it's commonly referred to as "interpreted". But is it really? Granted, it has an implicit, cached compilation step, but is it less compiled for that?
> Is there consistency here?
UCSD Pascal was “compiled” into the byte code of the interpreter. I wrote a P-code assembler in my senior year as part of the compiler class. Java started out doing the same thing and over time native code generation was added in gcj.
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2022-01-28 23:07 [TUHS] " Will Senn
2022-01-28 23:18 ` Dan Cross
2022-01-28 23:31 ` Will Senn
2022-01-29 0:03 ` Rob Pike
2022-01-29 0:40 ` Will Senn
2022-01-29 19:05 ` John Cowan
2022-01-29 19:36 ` arnold
2022-01-29 19:59 ` Clem Cole
2022-01-29 20:02 ` Jon Steinhart
2022-01-29 20:13 ` Bakul Shah
2022-01-29 20:30 ` Clem Cole
2022-01-29 20:34 ` Larry McVoy
2022-01-29 21:03 ` Al Kossow
2022-01-29 21:38 ` Larry McVoy
2022-01-29 22:06 ` Bakul Shah
2022-01-29 22:48 ` GREEN
2022-01-30 3:27 ` Larry McVoy
2022-01-30 16:57 ` David Barto
2022-01-30 18:07 ` [TUHS] Compilation "vs" byte-code interpretation, was " Dan Stromberg
2022-01-30 20:09 ` David Barto [this message]
2022-01-31 7:59 ` WEB
2022-01-30 22:51 ` Dan Cross
2022-01-30 23:57 ` Dan Stromberg
2022-01-31 0:23 ` Nemo Nusquam
2022-01-31 0:45 ` Steve Nickolas
2022-01-31 17:16 ` Paul Winalski
2022-01-31 20:00 ` Erik E. Fair
2022-01-31 22:45 ` Steve Nickolas
2022-02-02 4:53 ` Adam Thornton
2022-01-31 1:41 ` Phil Budne
2022-02-07 3:04 ` [TUHS] " Rob Gingell
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2022-01-30 20:09 ` [TUHS] Compilation "vs" byte-code interpretation, was " silas poulson
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