From: lbickley@bickleywest.com (Lyle Bickley)
Subject: [TUHS] Can't load split I&D files (in one PDP-11/23 PLUS)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:17:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906251517.10301.lbickley@bickleywest.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A43EB6E.1030807@dunnington.plus.com>
On Thursday 25 June 2009, Pete Turnbull wrote:
> On 25/06/2009 21:49, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> > Quoting SPC, who wrote on Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:57:47PM +0200 ..
> >> Well, the matter is simple: I'm trying to install 2.11 BSD in one PDP-11/23
> >> PLUS with 4MB of ram, and the 'restor' and 'icheck' utilities don't load in
> >> he PDP, returning this message:
> >>
> >> "Can't load split I&D files"
> >>
> >> I tried with the diverse distributions of Vtserver and diverse versions of
> >> 'restor'. In the case of the 2.9BSD this don't happen but the utility can't
> >> understand what is the 'vt' device.
> >>
> >> Someone has encountered and solved this problem ?
> >
> > I could be wrong, but I think the 11/23 is not a split ID CPU?
>
> Correct, it isn't. You cannot run 2.11BSD in a PDP-11/23 or similar
> machine because a lot of things in 2.11BSD require split I&D. It's
> declared on the first page of the setup instructions:
>
> "This distribution can be booted on a PDP-11 with 1Mb of memory or
> more, separate I&D, and with any of the following disks:"
>
> You need an 11/73 or better to have split I&D. For those who might not
> know what that means, it refers to the processor's ability to keep
> I(nstructions) and D(ata) in separate spaces, so in effect virtually
> doubling the amount of memory that can be used. That is, you can have
> (almost) 64K of instructions *and* (almost) 64K of data at the same
> time. Without split I&D, you have 64K in total for both.
As Pete says, you can't run 2.11 on an 11/23.
However, I do run 2.9 BSD on my 11/34 as it does NOT require seperate I&D
as does 2.11 BSD.
Might want to try using 2.9 on your 11/23. Here's the CPUs supported by
2.9 BSD:
11/23, 11/24, 11/34, 11/34A, 11/34C, 11/40, 11/44, 11/45, 11/55, 11/70
Min. required memory is 192K
Regards,
Lyle
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Lyle Bickley
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-25 18:57 SPC
2009-06-25 20:49 ` Wilko Bulte
2009-06-25 21:12 ` Lyle Bickley
2009-06-25 21:19 ` Bill Pechter
2009-06-25 21:31 ` Wilko Bulte
2009-06-25 21:26 ` Pete Turnbull
2009-06-25 22:17 ` Lyle Bickley [this message]
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