[TUHS] Now that Novell officially owns Unix again...

[TUHS] Now that Novell officially owns Unix again...

[Michael Kerpan]

Is anything likely to happen to the status of various historical
Unices? Is Novell likely to keep the Ancient Unix license intact or
are they likely to lock things back up? Is there any chance that
SysIII and early SysV might finally get opened up? Does anybody have
any ideas here?

Mike
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[TUHS] Now that Novell officially owns Unix again...

[M. Warner Losh]

In message: <u2x8dd2d95c1004011856q7bdde73bl6b44c15a49b54726 at mail.gmail.com>
            Michael Kerpan <madcrow.maxwell at gmail.com> writes:
: Is anything likely to happen to the status of various historical
: Unices? Is Novell likely to keep the Ancient Unix license intact or
: are they likely to lock things back up? Is there any chance that
: SysIII and early SysV might finally get opened up? Does anybody have
: any ideas here?

It is unlikely anything will happen before the Novel/SCO case is
completely over.  All that has happened is that a key verdict on one
aspect of the case has been rendered.  In all likelihood, Novel will
likely end up on top, but until the litigation is actually over, they
are unlikely to do anything.

Warner
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[TUHS] Now that Novell officially owns Unix again...

[Michael Kerpan]

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On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 12:55 AM, M. Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote:

> It is unlikely anything will happen before the Novel/SCO case is
> completely over.  All that has happened is that a key verdict on one
> aspect of the case has been rendered.  In all likelihood, Novel will
> likely end up on top, but until the litigation is actually over, they
> are unlikely to do anything.
>
> Warner
>

I realize that until things go through appeals and all, none of this
is final. I was just wondering whether we should be worried,
optimistic or indifferent about what will happen to the status of
historical Unix once the dust settles.

Mike

[TUHS] UniFlex

[Jose R. Valverde]

[TUHS] UniFlex

[Brad Spencer]

   P.S. (sorry for following up to myself)

	   I had a look into the files, and the system comes with commented
   source code in assembler.

	   FWIW this is a full distribution, including development environment 
   (C, Cobol, Fortran-77,..), editors, kernel, VSAM database, etc... all of it 
   with source code and documentation,

	   From my first cursory look most of it is written in assemble, comes
   with sample test code and is documented enough to be understandable. The 
   pascal, cobol and fortran 77 compilers are written in pascal (!), the C
   compiler is written in assembler.

	   It looks like the environment must have been only vaguely UNIX-like
   but yet I find it mesmerizing enough considering where it ran and when. It
   adds another dimension to understand the impact UNIX had and how it spun off
   lookalikes and sprung the imagination of developers of the time expanding its
   heritage sideways.

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Wow, what a blast from the past.  I used Flex on the Radio Shack Color
Computer in 64MB of memory in the '80s for a while.  Yes, the entire thing
was assembly and some Fortran.  I did not have the source to most of it
for my version, only the compiled binaries.  The version I used ran off
floppy disks, of course, and used a strange sector layout.  Something like
17 sectors of 256 bytes, instead of the 18 sectors 256 bytes that the
Color Computer usually used.

Neat system in some ways.  Way more "professional" then is peers, except
for OS/9 from Microware.

Flex was only very vaguely Unix, however.  OS/9, which I used a whole lot
on the Color Computer and Color Computer 3, was a lot more Unix like.  I
understand that the 6809 version is floating around the Net.  It was also
all 6809 assembly, multitasking and multiuser.  Very Unix V4/V5/V6 like in
a number of ways.




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[TUHS] UniFlex

[Jose R. Valverde]

P.S. (sorry for following up to myself)

	I had a look into the files, and the system comes with commented
source code in assembler.

	FWIW this is a full distribution, including development environment 
(C, Cobol, Fortran-77,..), editors, kernel, VSAM database, etc... all of it 
with source code and documentation,

	From my first cursory look most of it is written in assemble, comes
with sample test code and is documented enough to be understandable. The 
pascal, cobol and fortran 77 compilers are written in pascal (!), the C
compiler is written in assembler.

	It looks like the environment must have been only vaguely UNIX-like
but yet I find it mesmerizing enough considering where it ran and when. It
adds another dimension to understand the impact UNIX had and how it spun off
lookalikes and sprung the imagination of developers of the time expanding its
heritage sideways.

				j
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			EMBnet/CNB
		Scientific Computing Service
	Solving all your computer needs for Scientific
			Research.

		http://bioportal.cnb.csic.es
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