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From: jon@fourwinds.com (Jon Steinhart)
Subject: Favorite UNIX
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2017 14:21:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201710012121.v91LLKHK004998@darkstar.fourwinds.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANuZA8TSrJUd7PFZp0Taq9NnfOTDXgZ-cgQtNBO99ZpgRiXYag@mail.gmail.com>

Steve Mynott writes:
> On 1 October 2017 at 18:51, Noel Chiappa <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
> 
> > Why was Solaris so much worse than SunOS?
> 
> Probably because it was so much more buggy on release and people were
> more used to BSD and didn't like change and the fact that greedy Sun
> had removed the compiler. Solaris 2.3 had core dumps from base
> binaries everywhere where SunOS 4.1.3 seemed quite stable.

I think that the root cause is AT&T USL.  When UNIX went from research
to "product" different people worked on it.  And those people seemed to
lack the artistry, vision, and craftsmanship of the original developers.
AT&T pushed their SVR4 crud hard onto the rest of the world.  Meanwhile,
the folks at Berkeley produced code more in the original tradition
possibly because of Ken taking a sabbatical year to teach there.  SunOS
was the result of the pipeline between Berkeley and Sun.

Solaris was the result of Sun abandoning the Berkeley branch for the USL
branch.


  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-01 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-01 17:51 Noel Chiappa
2017-10-01 18:05 ` Larry McVoy
2017-10-01 18:39   ` Don Hopkins
2017-10-02  8:44   ` jason-tuhs
2017-10-02 11:52     ` Kevin Bowling
2017-10-02 14:17     ` Warner Losh
2017-10-01 18:13 ` Don Hopkins
2017-10-01 20:15 ` Steve Mynott
2017-10-01 21:21   ` Jon Steinhart [this message]
2017-10-01 23:28     ` Don Hopkins
2017-10-02  0:36     ` Larry McVoy
     [not found] <mailman.1424.1506881102.3779.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2017-10-01 19:09 ` Will Senn
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-09-29  2:58 [TUHS] " Kevin Bowling
2017-09-30 15:40 ` Michael Parson
2017-09-30 17:53   ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-30 18:34     ` Michael Parson
2017-09-30 18:45       ` Arthur Krewat
2017-10-01  0:36       ` Larry McVoy
2017-10-01  0:51         ` Dave Horsfall
2017-10-01  1:10           ` Larry McVoy
2017-10-01  1:13             ` Cory Smelosky
2017-10-01  3:43             ` Arthur Krewat
2017-10-01 14:07             ` Don Hopkins
2017-10-01  3:05       ` Michael Parson
2017-10-01  3:15         ` Kevin Bowling
     [not found]       ` <201710011513.v91FDSMB011831@freefriends.org>
2017-10-01 19:35         ` Michael Parson

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